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n Ear Monitors
Posted:
Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:07 pmby dom86978
Hey there
I am trying to find some in ear monitors "budget"
what are the pros and cons. And can anyone recommend some.
I am sick to death of the feedback problems with normal monitors.
I play in the uk and i know there are limitations on the freq of the units that are allowed to be used.
Any help gratefully received
Dom
Posted:
Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:30 pmby GuitarMikeB
My band uses the Shure P2 system - like any gear, you get what you pay for. The transmitter and the belt packs are the most expensive parts, you can get away with less-costly earbuds, or even use some headphones you've got in rehearsals.
Posted:
Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:19 pmby gbheil
Off topic I know . . .
But I just love being surrounded by big ol monitors and chest thumping bass.
Studies show that in ear can actually be more damaging to the auditory fibers than ambient sound . . .
Huh ... what ... what you say honey?
I'll be back, the wife wants something ...
Re: n Ear Monitors
Posted:
Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:25 amby dom86978
dom86978 wrote:Hey there
I am trying to find some in ear monitors "budget"
what are the pros and cons. And can anyone recommend some.
I am sick to death of the feedback problems with normal monitors.
I play in the uk and i know there are limitations on the freq of the units that are allowed to be used.
Any help gratefully received
Dom
Hey
I had a look at the Shure stuff , and it looks pretty good.
Not sure if I want to spend that sort of cash but its certainly a start
Dom
Re: n Ear Monitors
Posted:
Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:30 amby dom86978
dom86978 wrote:dom86978 wrote:Hey there
I am trying to find some in ear monitors "budget"
what are the pros and cons. And can anyone recommend some.
I am sick to death of the feedback problems with normal monitors.
I play in the uk and i know there are limitations on the freq of the units that are allowed to be used.
Any help gratefully received
Dom
Hey
I do understand how a good set of monitors will give you that buz at the front of house. But I am 50 now and my ears aint the best. Interesting point you mentioned that the in ear stuff will be worse in the long run for your ears. I hadent thought of that. But since i play a Marshall DSL 100.
I wonder if it will do any more damage than has already been done 
Dom
Hey
I had a look at the Shure stuff , and it looks pretty good.
Not sure if I want to spend that sort of cash but its certainly a start
Dom
Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:04 amby GuitarMikeB
sanshouheil wrote:Off topic I know . . .
But I just love being surrounded by big ol monitors and chest thumping bass.
Studies show that in ear can actually be more damaging to the auditory fibers than ambient sound . . .
Huh ... what ... what you say honey?
I'll be back, the wife wants something ...
Please provide a link to those studies!
Sure, if you turn up to deafening volumes, then earbuds can be bad, but the typical in ear personal packs don't really have that much volume - but they do cut out a significant amount of outside sound, too - all I know is my ears are not ringing after band practice they way they did before I got the in-ears.
Posted:
Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:40 amby gbheil
GuitarMikeB wrote:sanshouheil wrote:Off topic I know . . .
But I just love being surrounded by big ol monitors and chest thumping bass.
Studies show that in ear can actually be more damaging to the auditory fibers than ambient sound . . .
Huh ... what ... what you say honey?
I'll be back, the wife wants something ...
Please provide a link to those studies!
Sure, if you turn up to deafening volumes, then earbuds can be bad, but the typical in ear personal packs don't really have that much volume - but they do cut out a significant amount of outside sound, too - all I know is my ears are not ringing after band practice they way they did before I got the in-ears.
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This is exactly the issue with ear buds and ambient sound.
If the SPL is kept down there is no hearing loss.
But then you knew that already.
Search this "hearing loss with ear buds" . . . pick one of several thousand.
Posted:
Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:51 pmby GuitarMikeB
Oh, it's on the internet ... it
must be true!
Posted:
Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:37 pmby Starfish Scott
The shure in ear stuff (most pieces) are all available via craigslist at a major discount. I'd look there if that's what I needed.
Posted:
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:10 pmby GuitarMikeB
CraigsList? I haven't seen anything around me with any regularity. The receivers may not last forever - and are subject to abuse: getting dropped, etc, so better to buy those new if you can find a transmitter used.
Of course you wouldn't want used earbuds ....
Posted:
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:26 pmby Starfish Scott
I meant the belt power pack thing..
Eww used ear buds.. LOL Mmmmmmm no.
Posted:
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:52 pmby t-Roy and The Smoking Section
I want to hear what's going on in the room, and I can't stand anything in my ears.
The best solution is Bose. I have 3 L1 Classic towers, but rarely use more than one of them. I can do an outdoor concert with 3 of them, or up to an 800 seater room (depending on the acoustics of the room).
They disperse sound evenly in any room and do not feedback, even with a mic pointing at it from a few feet away.
When I go to a room that has a great sound system, I use them as monitors and send a mix to the main board from my Bose mixer onstage, or a separate signal for every instrument off the back of my mixer. With a Bose tower behind me, there isn't a spot on the stage where I can't hear everything exactly as I want to hear it.
It costs a little more to have the right equipment, but an L1 classic can be found on eBay for about 1,000 and it replaces a mixer, power amp, mains, AND monitors so it's really not any more expensive than traditional systems until you get more than 2 of them.
Posted:
Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:45 pmby GuitarMikeB
I wouldn't say a Bose L1 replaces a mixer, unless you are talking about a 2-person acoustic-type act. Our band needs 14 inputs minimum for a live gig (6 vocal, 3 mic-d amps and DI (from amp) bass and 4 drum).
Besides, the OP was looking for a cheap solution for monitoring!
Posted:
Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:34 pmby t-Roy and The Smoking Section
GuitarMikeB wrote:I wouldn't say a Bose L1 replaces a mixer, unless you are talking about a 2-person acoustic-type act. Our band needs 14 inputs minimum for a live gig (6 vocal, 3 mic-d amps and DI (from amp) bass and 4 drum).
Besides, the OP was looking for a cheap solution for monitoring!
I was talking about the Bose mixer, and I realize a Bose system isn't cheap but they replace mains & monitors & power amps, even if you do need a larger mixer.
It's the best solution I've found in almost 40 years of playing professionally because I can hear everything clearly no matter where I'm standing without ever getting feedback. I hardly have to whisper....so my voice can go hours and hours every night for up to 5 days in a row before it needs a rest.
I really don't understand why sound companies don't use them for onstage monitors.
If you use them like Bose recommends, then every member of the band has one, which means every member of the band has a 4 channel powered mixer. But yea, not many bands can afford to have that....but it would only take one as an onstage monitor, and that would work for PA too, if you're playing a small room.
Or you can go with "cheap" and get what you paid for. I don't play a Junkco guitar for the same reason.
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