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And you could create atonal music with this too, right?

This is what I'm talking about. This is NOT "writing."

Writing means taking it totally from scratch, not using someone else's samples or machinized little balls of sh*t.

This requires NO knowledge of music. You probably can't even step outside of the box far enough to change keys with this stuff, & if you COULD, you wouldn't know how to do it correctly.

Quit trying to go around the basics & LEARN something about music, & you might get some "respect." Until then, you're just a waste of time, like some 5 yr old who's still playing with the blocks he should have quit playing with at age 3.

Writer - it's junk for the great unwashed masses who have a feeling of entitlement, that they, too, should be recognized as great composers &/or musicians, without putting any effort into it. Get your head out of your ass & try to LEARN about music, otherwise just go somewhere else to pawn your useless stolen wares.

Thats good man.

:shock: Thats good man.

This is Milly Vanilli without fake vocals, OK dude let's say a club manager hires you for a gig, whatcha gonna do show up and set you lap top on stage and push the play button and stand there, not much of an act don't you think?

If this is the wave of the future might as well stay home and play the radio or the doorbell.

No there is no art there. But did I ever say I want a gig. Maybe I did.

I thought this was supposed to be a website where musicians get together and form bands ( as in people making music together). Here's the definition of music from Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary: "the art and science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds or tones in varying melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre, especially so as to form structurally complete and emotionally expressive compositions" Here's the definition of band "a group of musicians playing together" Here's the definition of mix ""to join: to associate: to unite with in company" Mr. Writer, what you're trying to accomplish here really isn't relevant to the purpose of Bandmix in my opinion. Yeah I know I get off track sometimes, and sometimes I joke around a little (well a lot sometimes) but I am a musician. I have played in bands for thirty years. I write complete songs (whether you like them or not is irrelvant). I have contacted other musicians on this website and been contacted by others. All of your posts Mr.Writer, are inexplicable to me. I STILL don't really know what you are trying to accomplish here. Are you trying to get into a band (a group of musicians trying to play together)? Are you trying to join, to associate; to unite with in company? Maybe I'm a dumbass. Maybe I'm just not catching on...

Sorry for the confusion, really am. Also appreciate the critisim of my music. I can take it. I don't know Webster except the one on T.V. and I think that show is long gone. I wrote a lenghty post on what I am trying to do. I use Jamstudio.com to make music. It may not be in Webster, but music is anything you pat your feet to, and hum along with. Once I have made my music on JamStudio, I go to songcastmusic and make a cd. You hace to ch eck out both sites to understand better. In the meantime I ask you what are you trying to do? Are you trying to stop trying to use this site? Where is this websites does it say that it is STRICKLY for musicians to get together. And additions and subtractions of definitions are made to Webster constantly, depending on usage or non-usage of frequwncy. And as a bon-afide musician as yourself fisherman, music is constantlchanging and evolving. And far as the end results of my goals, is to be a writer...for which I will show in future posts.
PS> Fishing techniques are constantl changing to bob, taking casting

Hey Writer,

You will find that musicians spent a LOT of hours, blood, sweat, and tears working on their skills, writing, technique, and everything else that comes with the craft.

What technique can a computer program add to music, even if you do write the parts? It's comparable to the master artist competing with the guy who uses one of those art kits where they have you paint the specified colors within the specified lines to create pre-conditioned and pre-conceived art. It might still be technically art, but not to an artist...

Much like karaoke singers get no respect from singers who have real experience and have trained hard to get the chops they have.

So you can expect a little harsh criticism when you promote such things, cause you are in a pretty solid musician community.

Hope this at least helps with you understanding where people are coming from, even if you don't agree.

Art is art

Everything Mankind does to fulfill our wants and needs constitutes "craft"

Keep throwin' poop at the proverbial wall fellow Bandmixerinos, and see what sticks! (just don't hurt anybody in the process)

If nobody ever ventured into screwin' around with new found toys, we would cease to evolve.

Just a bit of philosophy for Ya'll on a beautiful Sunday morn.

gotta now go do some work, hope all you people in "out playin' mode" had a good gig last night!

later,
Howlin'

Ah, but these "quick fix" approaches to art do nothing to aid in one's musical development, let alone one's knowledge of it.

Sure, you can slap together things that appeal to you, & maybe even a few others, but you aren't going to get any better without knowing what you're working with.

Give a toddler a bunch of carpenter tools. He'll stack them up in interesting ways, but he still doesn't know how to use them (if he dosn't hurt himself in the process).

Learn about music or don't, but don't call yourself a composer if you aren't one. You can lie to yourself, but those of us out here in the real will certainly know the difference.

You're cheating yourself AND your listeners out of your potential by going the cheap & quick & easy way...you cannot possibly find that perfect melody in there, the one that comes from within your soul. Nothing you can produce from this will ever have any realness from within you to it. It's "paint-by-numbers music," at best, & I will always look down on it.

Have you tried pottery? Try it without the tools, the kiln, just program stuff into your 'puter & make IT do all the work. Would that make you an artist? If you can't use your own resources, you're a fraud as a "creator" of anything at all.

Have you tried pottery? Try it without the tools, the kiln, just program stuff into your 'puter & make IT do all the work.

You could draw a nice picture of a pot, BUT WOULD IT HOLD FLOWERS?
I think not.

I think I will take my H4 recorder to the shooting range with me.
I always liked the stacatto ryhthm of gunfire. Maybe I can get Ryan to sing to it. Boy has a strong voice.

sans, that would be more real than what this guy is producing. At least you;d be using your OWN guns & rhythms!

Good point Phil.