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Posted:
Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:33 pm
by gbheil
I like Wheelin N Dealin, though your voice just does not do that song justice. Not a personal slam my man just my observation. Someone with a deeper and somewhat course voice could rasp out some mean sounding vox with that tune.
Good job.
Being a consevative who only sees black and white, I of course did not care for the monkey song. The music was good.
Thanks for the listen.

Posted:
Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:46 am
by RhythmMan
SP, if you want to record it with a deeper voice, try cutting the playback volume down to 1/2 or 1/3, first.
It should come out better . . .

Posted:
Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:16 am
by Chippy
Assignment2
Is a really cool and well played piece. What did you use to record that Sentient? Cab of doom sounds good too in my opinion. All round a good clean crisp sounding recording too.
Well done mate

Posted:
Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:56 pm
by RhythmMan
SP, you mentioned singing an octave lower, but you weren't sure if you could sing it.
I didn't know if you wanted to, but if you did, I was suggesting that while you are singing and recording, to keep the volume of the song very low so you can hear your own vocals better as you are recording.
Think 'Jethro Tull' . . .
Another suggestion - maybe you could expand the melodies of your songs?
OK, be well.

Posted:
Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:08 am
by RhythmMan
Re: vocals
Problems?
Then build the melody one note at a time.
Stop the song where there needs to be a different note in the melody.
Whatever chord you are holding, pick it one note at a time, and sing that note.
The song will put itself together if you do this.

Posted:
Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:27 pm
by Chippy
Good lord Sentient.
I have to admit nothing of this makes any sense to me at all. In fact midi does my head in because I really don't understand what, no how to control another say Keyboard from another and what advantages that might have?
I've used midi many times and would seriously like to use one of the thousands of sounds I have over my analog work. That will take some time I suspect because of the above and not knowing how to do it
Still a very good piece no matter how you put it togehter.
Thanks for explaining and sorry for not being that clued on it.
Best.
I use the piece as a kind of "transition" piece in my playlists between older compositions done with different methods, and newer pieces with heavier midi implementation. The old sounds very different from the new, because, so far, the new is entirely midi, while the older songs only used midi drums, and no keyboard (though I am now adding midi driven bass to them, which does use keyboard voice).
The entire piece was composed in Sibelius, exported as a midi file, then imported as midi into Cakewalk. That file was then converted to audio by recording the midi file played back through a Yamaha PSR540 music station keyboard. It's entirely midi, but I did record each midi voice into a separate track for better mixdown control.
I didn't actually play any of it.

Posted:
Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:49 pm
by Chippy
Hi Sentient.
Hope you didn't think I was knocking you in any way I wasn't. Everything that you've posted is so lucid and very understandable apart from the tech stuff which I'll get round to understanding as regards midi.
I think your posts on this should frankly be archived or put somewhere on your own site for other people to learn from too.
Best.
Chippy

Posted:
Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:39 am
by Chippy
Hi Sentient.
I wouldn't admire anything I do frankly. If you saw me pull my hair out after getting right to the end of a phrase then screw up royally only to have to do it all again you'd know who is better off in this.
Trouble is with me once I've screwed it up a couple of times I just won't let go until I've got it somewhere near where I wanted. I'm never truly happy to be honest.
I think there is a lot of middle ground in between us and there isn't really in this day and age any right way.
More power to you mate.
Sentient Paradox wrote:No offense was taken Chippy.
I know, because I used to have recordings of some of it before I learned to add the midi stuff.
It was horrid! I can't keep time without a drummer (can't even do it with a metronome or click track!), and the bass adds the dimension the music simply NEEDS to live.
People like me envy those with your abilities.