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#19909 by Irish Anthony
Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:53 pm
top o the morning amigos.......

i would like to spread the word of this movie/documentary called "zeitgeist" it opens on march 15th 2008 and i believe all americans need to see this movie...click the link at the bottom of this page and enjoy
its free but you will need flash player to watch it and the intro is a bit long but once it gets going hold on to your seats.

it is in three parts and is about two hours long...the first part deals with "religion" all christians and other faiths of the world should watch this and see if it changes your view in anyway, its not pro or con christian its just the facts and it changed the way i look at religion forever.

act two deals with "911" again its all facts..not just crack pot ideas of how it happened...it will change everything you believe....everything.

act three deals with "federal tax" and just like the other parts it will blow your mind...im not even american and i feel ripped off....

as i said this is some "heavy" stuff it deals with some very hard facts that some people will have great trouble trying to understand but you cant argue with facts...this movie has changed my view on lots of things

i hope it does the same for you...ps i would love to hear feedback from "americans" on how they liked/hated this movie....

brace yourself america Z-day is coming.....

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
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#19944 by scarletrust
Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:35 am
I just saw it online tonight. It was emotional; got my heart racing & my mind churning. Intense stuff! Nothing in the movie really bothered my Christian sensibilities, as most all of the things that are believed by Christendom (so-called "Christians") originate in paganism anyway. It just reinforces my belief in the unfolding of Bible prophecy. But that's me.......

It's been awhile since I have seen something that stirred me in this way. Most of the media presented to us has been like what the movie portrays; a distraction, a dumbing down of society. It's been happening for decades, if not centuries, and not just in the U.S.

As far as the "facts" go, I will say they were more convincing than those goofballs who made "Loose Change", but I would liked to have seen more backup on the "facts." That's probably asking too much, as proving things one way or another become more and more mired through the fog of time and stockpile of speculation and rumor. There are some interesting connections made, though. BTW, I don't, by any stretch of the imagination, buy the government's story, AKA the 9/11 Commission Report.

Kinda sounds like the issues with the RIAA. They tell the public not only what to buy, but what to like. That's thought control my friends! :wink:

#19959 by Irish Anthony
Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:21 am
thanks for the feedback scarletrust...im glad you watched it.

as i said i am very curious to find out how americans from all walks of life react to "zeitgeist"....

it really had a profound effect on me and i dont think ive ever watched a movie like it...and its not even a movie....as such.

also the musicial score is fantastic....

thanks again scarlet.

#19974 by TheCaptain
Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:31 pm
its just the facts and it changed the way i look at religion forever.


I haven't watched any of it at this point, but would you care to expound please on this statement Anthony?
R

#19981 by Irish Anthony
Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:57 pm
celticpiping wrote:
its just the facts and it changed the way i look at religion forever.


I haven't watched any of it at this point, but would you care to expound please on this statement Anthony?
R



just watch it celtic.......and let me know if it changed your view in anyway

and again its powerfull stuff...not for everyone but everyone should see it...i wouldnt utter what this movie has to say about christ for fear of an onslaught...and by the by i didnt make this movie so if you have trouble with it dont blame me....and the "religion" part is only the first act please watch the whole movie...and comment on it...

Z-day is coming......buy a helmet.

#19982 by TheCaptain
Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:23 pm
Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It served to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. And most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish


From their site.
I'm not 100% sure who wrote this, but one need not look much further to understand the forces behind it.
Pretty clear agenda here.

I'm betting that very soon, this material is going to be scrutinized, and consequently refuted by many historical/religious experts.
My .02
We shall see..

#19985 by Irish Anthony
Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:00 pm
celtic just watch the f uckin movie and dont take what i say or anyone else..yes i can see it has already started...that review is just bullshit..first of all it starts with "anti-christian movie zeitgeist" as an opening...yes the poor old christians blinded by centurys of subversion...im sure this is like kryptonite to them but the truth will out...

the christian act is only one part of it and im sure most christians wouldnt even make it through the first part...its just sad to me....blind faith..

wake up america......you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.....

asking a die hard christian to review this movie is like asking a jew to review "the passion of the christ"...

or asking a 5 year old to prove that santa is real....etc

take it or leave it but this movie IS going to be released and then what??

it has alot more to say than just "religion" in truth the 911 part is alot more concerning than the rest of it..............but i know alot of christians will just choose to ignore it or argue the facts and bury there heads in the sand like they always have..that is one of the points in the movie

but just watch it and make up your own mind....never fall in line with the "sheep" and always be true to yourself even if it means you have to go aginst the grain from time to time.

#19987 by Irish Anthony
Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:12 pm
[quote="celticpiping"]Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It served to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. And most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish


From their site.
I'm not 100% sure who wrote this, but one need not look much further to understand the forces behind it.
Pretty clear agenda here.


pretty clear agenda eh...... taking one small quote and using that to anounce its agenda is a little foolish...

to put it in music terms ..its like hearing just the "hi-hats" in a song and basing your view on the whole piece of music....


and im sure you would never gudge music like that...would you.

#19992 by TheCaptain
Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:38 pm
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#19996 by Irish Anthony
Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:10 pm
celtic im not trying to "bangheads" with you i just wanted you to view it(and not pick up second hand reviews) and let me know what YOU think.
im not asking you to like/dislike it but at least view it before you decide

scarlet gave me his view and he is of "the way" much like yourself there was no ill feelings just a review..thats all i want good or bad...

if your saying its wrong..well then you think its wrong.

end of story..thats all i need to know...
and i must admit its not very "christian" of you to say i 1) don't have any real faith to call your own(I'm not gonna try & change that)
2) you don't think much of nor have a grasp of recorded history

i fail to see how my faith and grasp of history(dont make me laugh) history was one of my strongest subjects and im sure i could teach you a thing or two about history but that is of little importance...

so to close you must be right.....and im sure my faith must be wrong because its not the same as yours...

and i would have a guinness with you anytime...if i didnt like people just because there different or have different views than me i would have little or no friends at all.

#20005 by TheCaptain
Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:34 pm
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#20008 by Irminsul
Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:51 am
Celtic I think Anthony has a point here. Rather than view the movie and form your views on what you saw (which is what he suggested) you looked at a some cursory commentary about it, saw a contrary opinion to it posted on another site, and wrote it off just like that.

Don't you think we should exercise more honest scrutiny than that? It would be like me dismissing the US Constitution, had I never read it, based upon George Bush calling it "just a goddamn piece of paper".

#20010 by TheCaptain
Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:45 am
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#20011 by Irminsul
Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:55 am
celticpiping wrote:ok, I'll keep arguing..all in good humor..I guess..

Again, I read the transcript.

Do I miss something by reading the transcript, that you can only get via watching the actual movie?


Well YES, celtic. That's why it's a MOVIE, dude. Are you suggesting that Steven Spielberg should have just published the script to "Raiders of The Lost Ark" and mailed it out to people instead of made the movie? That everything you need to know could be gleaned from a transscript?

I know you are smarter than that!

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