Well Mr. Tropical Hunch - you might try hiring a man as your bass player. Real bass men keep you silly people in line, it's rough, but somebody has to do it.
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seniorblues wrote:Would it be fair to say that a greater percentage of keyboard players have more technical and theory training than guitar players?
how about a iii VI ii V I turnaround in Bb?
This is a hobby.
MikeTalbot wrote:Well Mr. Tropical Hunch - you might try hiring a man as your bass player. Real bass men keep you silly people in line, it's rough, but somebody has to do it.
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Hammer and Strings wrote:In my experience most keyboard players approach their instrument as soloist ...
Hammer and Strings wrote: ... they are usually taught how to read music off a sheet. You play the exact note written on the paper at the precise speed you're told to play it. This is a terrible way to approach an instrument ... You're little more than a well trained parrot ... I think the way guitarists are often taught to play chords and improvise by ear is far superior ...
Hammer and Strings wrote:Playing keys in a cover band can be really difficult ...
Hammer and Strings wrote:... and there's a lot of stuff one must learn alone. There's not going to be a YouTube video that teaches you how to play those strings in that led zeppelin song that your band wants to do, keep beating your head against the wall till you figure it out. You'll get there eventually.
Hammer and Strings wrote:There's more than enough rock/blues/country/jazz songs where the keys are doing the leads to fill up an entire set list and if your leads are garbled or amateurish I'm going to suggest that in the interests of not embarrassing us we try another song where the keys are doing the leads instead.
tropicalhunch wrote:As a traditional B3 type (no synths, no electric pianos, just a big ole Hammond organ) less often tends to be better. But take that organ away and you immediately sense something is missing. Some of the best were and are minimalists who used the instrument to fill in the sonic gaps. The organ is the band's orchestral voice. It's there, but it's best when it isn't constantly in your face.
yod wrote: Amen, bro. Where you been all my life? I produced an album in 2009 with one of the great lead guitarists in America and his band. It was already fantastic without a keyboard player but not "ready" in my opinion. Had to wait a couple of weeks for the funds to bring in a keyboard player to finish it.
Magilla66 wrote:7. Have you looked at the amount of gear we haul to gigs? I personally move 250-some lbs of equipment. Only drummers move more gear around.
Magilla66 wrote:Top ten reasons why good rock keyboardists are hard to find
10. Songs are selected by instrumentalists in the band that are not keyboardists
9. Most songs don't have keyboard parts laid out like guitarists or bassists have tab sheets
8. Arrangements for keys usually are in more guitar-friendly keys, and so, become rather boring (e.g., let's all play in G, D, E, or A)
7. Have you looked at the amount of gear we haul to gigs? I personally move 250-some lbs of equipment. Only drummers move more gear around.
6. Asking a keyboardist if they can reproduce classic tunes with intros to songs like Fly Like an Eagle, any Yes song, or layer like Paich and Porcaro, is like me asking you if you can pull off Jimi, Vai, Eddie, or Satch.
5. You're playing too loud, turn it down - is what I'm told more often than - hey, crank that sh*t!
4. What was the question again?
3. Keyboardists are sidemen, unless your name is Brubeck, Monk, Elton, or the like.
2. We don't get out much.
1. Does anybody really care what keyboard players think?
BONUS: we all just want to play guitar, because as Lukather said, "Chicks dig dudes that play guitar."
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