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I have come up with a very unique album concept and already have three song concepts for it. I am looking for an experienced band (preferably alternative or rock) to develop this album concept. This album will hit home for many. I have never heard an album of this nature, especially not in alternative music.

I am only interested in talking to bands that will take this and run with it. I can provide lyrical assistance for the songs, but I need the chords or at least the basic structure to be able to do so. This album concept is available for a very reasonable price of $20K plus 5% of gross earnings from record sales, and tours. If you feel my asking price is unreasonable, I understand, however this concept is so simple yet so powerful and it is going to kill, with the right band. Millions of people will connect with this album if you don't mess it up. That is a promise.

I am in the Houston area and you would have to travel here if you are not local. I cannot travel to you due to my job.
-Chris

Faulty Wiring wrote:I have come up with a very unique album concept and already have three song concepts for it. I am looking for an experienced band (preferably alternative or rock) to develop this album concept. This album will hit home for many. I have never heard an album of this nature, especially not in alternative music.

I am only interested in talking to bands that will take this and run with it. I can provide lyrical assistance for the songs, but I need the chords or at least the basic structure to be able to do so. This album concept is available for a very reasonable price of $20K plus 5% of gross earnings from record sales, and tours. If you feel my asking price is unreasonable, I understand, however this concept is so simple yet so powerful and it is going to kill, with the right band. Millions of people will connect with this album if you don't mess it up. That is a promise.

I am in the Houston area and you would have to travel here if you are not local. I cannot travel to you due to my job.
-Chris

Dude, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this... If you cant write a full blown song, how are you gonna pull off an album 'concept?

1) What labels have you worked with?
2) Can you provide references? (Names/Contact Info of Producers, Musicians, promoters you have worked with, who have employed your concepts.)
3) Need to see evidence of artists, who have sold millions of CDs (albums) from using your "concept" in the past. As you know, Sales tell the tales.

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I write. I cannot play an instrument. I am not a great singer. Maybe one day I'll learn to play an instrument, but its not high on my list of priorities. I have not claimed to be any of these things. If you are not interested, that's cool. I figured I'd try this site out, as well as contact local bands in the area. I've got a good feeling that the local bands are the better route. But I'm looking at multiple routes and if no one is interested here, no big deal.

PaperDog wrote:
Dude, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this... If you cant write a full blown song, how are you gonna pull off an album 'concept?

1) What labels have you worked with?
2) Can you provide references? (Names/Contact Info of Producers, Musicians, promoters you have worked with, who have employed your concepts.)
3) Need to see evidence of artists, who have sold millions of CDs (albums) from using your "concept" in the past. As you know, Sales tell the tales.

I get it. You are using the same standard as many employers. Someone graduates from college with a degree nowadays, and they apply for jobs, but unfortunately, if you do not have experience, they don't want you. Doesn't matter what your GPA was or how good you are at it. No experience, good luck finding a job.


So, the same with me. I have no experience. I do not expect bands to just unquestioningly spend their time to meet with me based on my experience. Coming on here is a long shot. Most people on here do not have the money to spare. They have already invested heavily in their work. I did not necessarily expect to find any band who would have that kind of money laying around. But it is a fair price. If one of you had an album make it very big, you would be able to live comfortably off of it for years if you wanted to. I would only be able to live off of $20,000 long enough to be able to return to college for a year or two while cutting back my work to part time hours so I can still be able to provide financial support for my grandparents.

Dude, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this... If you cant write a full blown song, how are you gonna pull off an album 'concept?

1) What labels have you worked with?
2) Can you provide references? (Names/Contact Info of Producers, Musicians, promoters you have worked with, who have employed your concepts.)
3) Need to see evidence of artists, who have sold millions of CDs (albums) from using your "concept" in the past. As you know, Sales tell the tales.

I get it. You are using the same standard as many employers. Someone graduates from college with a degree nowadays, and they apply for jobs, but unfortunately, if you do not have experience, they don't want you. Doesn't matter what your GPA was or how good you are at it. No experience, good luck finding a job.

Yep that about sizes it up. Welcome to the hard cruel world. Its very doable, but you got to have a modicum of strength. It helps to remember who to thank for being alive another day too. The good news is that once you get in... you're in... Then you build your experiences and with that, you can roll up your resume and poke all the hiring employers in the eye... That's the beauty of it all.

So, the same with me. I have no experience. I do not expect bands to just unquestioningly spend their time to meet with me based on my experience. Coming on here is a long shot. Most people on here do not have the money to spare. They have already invested heavily in their work. I did not necessarily expect to find any band who would have that kind of money laying around. But it is a fair price.

The first rule of consulting, (which I happen to do for a living) is to never discuss fees at the initial meeting... Instead , discuss and find out what your client needs. The second rule : Before you even talk about price, you need to show the client why you are qualified and why you are the best guy for the project... THEN if your client is convinced that you are the man.... THEN you toss out a fee (and leave room for him or her to negotiate if possible). Have said all this , I gave you a 225.00 dollar piece advice for free. I can say its worth 225.00 because I have DONE the work enough times to be considered a viable PROFESSIONAL at what I do. (and thats the market rate) NOTE: I did not become a professional by merely "THINKING UP" good ideas. I became one by obtaining experience. In the beginning, I worked for FREE and delivered good results... That's where I built my ball field..and now they come...

If one of you had an album make it very big, you would be able to live comfortably off of it for years if you wanted to. I would only be able to live off of 20,000 long enough to be able to return to college for a year while working part time while still being able to provide financial support my grandparents.

I don't think the Fee is in question here. Its the fee. in conjunction with nothing to back it up... If you can prove that you can make an album a million-dollar seller, you'll get a lot of takers for your service. You just have to be able to prove it.

PaperDog wrote:
I don't think the Fee is in question here. Its the fee. in conjunction with nothing to back it up... If you can prove that you can make an album a million-dollar seller, you'll get a lot of takers for your service. You just have to be able to prove it.

That's the rub, isn't it? I have not helped anyone make a million dollar album. I have not had the ideas to do so. I've had good song and album ideas in the past. (e.g. country song; from a father's perspective of a daughter facing and eventually moving beyond a divorce) But not one like this. So its a shot in the dark, especially with no prior experience.

Oh and regarding the experience part, that's how I am working on my passion with inventing and art. I gave an idea to my company for free. In return, I get written acknowledgement of my idea and its usefulness. I also am doing the same with my art. The project I am working on at the moment will be going on Youtube. I'll put an ad in front of it, so I will get some revenue from it, but not much. But more importantly, I will have another thing to add to my portfolio.

I cannot do this with the music industry. It is not my field. Just because I have some good ideas, does not make me a musician. Nor will it turn me into a hit album-creating mogul. This idea is one of a kind and I doubt another idea of this magnitude will hit me, as far as music is concerned.

I cannot do this with the music industry. It is not my field. Just because I have some good ideas, does not make me a musician. Nor will it turn me into a hit album-creating mogul. This idea is one of a kind and I doubt another idea of this magnitude will hit me, as far as music is concerned.

If its any consolation...What you have described here, sounds a lot like the attributes one might find in a talent producer or a talent promoter. In either case, the job requires inventiveness, and a zeal for manifesting big ideas... Perhaps , this would be a stepping stone (which again, would exemplify your professional skills in the long haul, and give you the creds to discuss /risk/investment moves). BTW don't sell short the idea that you can think up another good idea...(Especially since ideas are the easiest part of the equation)

Faulty,

Been reading through all these posts/threads and I have an idea.
You don't need a musician/band to invest their money in your idea, you need a financier. Much like how the film industry works, you find financial backers to invest in your project because you have convinced them it is worthwhile.

Once financially set you can hire session musicians and a music director to oversee the project to perfection.