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I am a record producer, and i would like to work with any rock, country, or r&b band.

JCargo wrote:I am a record producer, and i would like to work with any rock, country, or r&b band.

I really don't think this place needs a producer. What these fine musicians need is a tour manager who will book them in the right spots and pay them very well.

If they hired a great producer first, they'd find a manager and better pay much more likely



but pick me! I'm a producer too!

yod wrote:If they hired a great producer first, they'd find a manager and better pay much more likely



but pick me! I'm a producer too!

YOd How does that work? Say I Picked you to Produce me... What does that mean for you and for me...?

Simply stated a producer is the person who takes a theoretical concept all the way to a finished product in hard copy. They make the music/film business what it is by providing product for the rest of the industry to sell.

A producer is "supposed" to bring out the best in an artist by taking what they have in the right direction sonically for the most professional image. They choose the studio and musicians who will give the best presentation of the songs. They write arrangements for the musicians and give them direction. They advise the mix, oversee the mastering, coordinate the art & graphics....sometimes they work with the manufacturing company for the independent artist OR represent the final product to an appropriate label so it gets manufactured by them.

They are almost always writers themselves who understand the physics of a song and can "nip & tuck" a part here or there to make the song have maximum impact and represent the artist's best.

A great producer has relationships with great musicians, great engineers, great mastering companies, and record labels with great distribution. Those who have the best connections are the most expensive and worth every penny. (I have mostly contempt for record companies and advise against them)

If I were to produce you it would be a very simple "live" studio recording to capture the emotion of an intimate live performance. To do a studio album would be much more expensive, but I don't think it would be as good in your case because you seem to live in the moment. There are a lot of artists who couldn't pull off a "live studio" album but singer-songwriters usually are best in that setting.

It's really not that hard with a lot of advance planning. You could do that by yourself IF you can locate the right team of studio, engineer, & musicians. If you go to Dallas, Gnashville, or LA I can give you a few phone numbers and you could take it from there. Dallas would be cheaper but the people you work with in Gnashville or LA would have the most serious contacts (generally speaking) for after it's done. That doesn't matter as much these days since labels don't have as much power as they once did.

It could cost more to do a great project by yourself because there is a learning curve, but it would be an educational experience that would help you on the next one. If you aren't planning the next one, then you aren't serious. A recording artist needs a new product every 2-4 years to sustain the audience they've worked to build.

I'd bet there are some great players in El Paso but it would take some time to find the ones who work best together. Harder for me to do that long distance...but it can be done.

For a broadcast quality album you should budget at least $1,000-1,500 per song just for the recording/mastering/manufacturing process. It could be cheaper but it's best to be prepared if it isn't. It would be a waste of time and money to spend less if you don't have something that is great when you're done. It could also be more expensive for a variety of reasons.

The biggest expense of a successful album could come after it has been produced (marketing & promotion) but indie artists "could" market themselves with lots of touring and still be successful.

by the way, if you're wondering how much a producer costs its all relative to what you need.

If you're open to a live studio project I can get that done in a week and do it rather cheaply between gigs in late May or early June. A studio album would take 3 or 4 weeks of focused attention and I'm booked through November already. Not likely I could help you with that but I can steer you in the right direction.

yod wrote:Simply stated a producer is the person who takes a theoretical concept all the way to a finished product in hard copy. They make the music/film business what it is by providing product for the rest of the industry to sell.

A producer is "supposed" to bring out the best in an artist by taking what they have in the right direction sonically for the most professional image. They choose the studio and musicians who will give the best presentation of the songs. They write arrangements for the musicians and give them direction. They advise the mix, oversee the mastering, coordinate the art & graphics....sometimes they work with the manufacturing company for the independent artist OR represent the final product to an appropriate label so it gets manufactured by them.

They are almost always writers themselves who understand the physics of a song and can "nip & tuck" a part here or there to make the song have maximum impact and represent the artist's best.

A great producer has relationships with great musicians, great engineers, great mastering companies, and record labels with great distribution. Those who have the best connections are the most expensive and worth every penny. (I have mostly contempt for record companies and advise against them)

If I were to produce you it would be a very simple "live" studio recording to capture the emotion of an intimate live performance. To do a studio album would be much more expensive, but I don't think it would be as good in your case because you seem to live in the moment. There are a lot of artists who couldn't pull off a "live studio" album but singer-songwriters usually are best in that setting.

It's really not that hard with a lot of advance planning. You could do that by yourself IF you can locate the right team of studio, engineer, & musicians. If you go to Dallas, Gnashville, or LA I can give you a few phone numbers and you could take it from there. Dallas would be cheaper but the people you work with in Gnashville or LA would have the most serious contacts (generally speaking) for after it's done. That doesn't matter as much these days since labels don't have as much power as they once did.

It would cost more to do it yourself because there is a learning curve, but it would be an educational experience that would help you on the next one. If you aren't planning the next one, then you aren't serious. A recording artist needs a new product every 2-4 years to sustain the audience they've worked to build.

I'd bet there are some great players in El Paso but it would take some time to find the ones who work best together. Harder for me to do that long distance...but it can be done.

For a broadcast quality album you should budget at least $1,000-1,500 per song just for the recording/mastering/manufacturing process. It could be cheaper but it's best to be prepared if it isn't. It would be a waste of time and money to spend less if you don't have something that is great when you're done. It could also be more expensive for a variety of reasons.

The biggest expense of a successful album could come after it has been produced (marketing & promotion) but indie artists "could" market themselves with lots of touring and still be successful.

Thanks for this excellent response... (Check your BM email)

PaperDog wrote:
Thanks for this excellent response... (Check your BM email)

Since I'm not a paying subscriber, I have no BM email

yod wrote:

PaperDog wrote:
Thanks for this excellent response... (Check your BM email)

Since I'm not a paying subscriber, I have no BM email

I am a paying Subscriber and you should not only be able to receive my messages but you should also be allowed to reply to them. If not please, let me know and will get up in BM's face about it...

yod wrote:If they hired a great producer first, they'd find a manager and better pay much more likely



but pick me! I'm a producer too!

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you might want to check here and a couple of other places.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Services/Recording-Studio-Record-Producers/Search.aspx

RGMixProject wrote:

yod wrote:If they hired a great producer first, they'd find a manager and better pay much more likely



but pick me! I'm a producer too!

and

you might want to check here and a couple of other places.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Services/Recording-Studio-Record-Producers/Search.aspx

whew...I'm glad they haven't found out about me there yet!





Seriously there are lots of good reasons to hire a producer but picking them at random off the internet is not going to end up well 99.999% of the time.

There's always that .0001% chance, I suppose.

I understand that producers need work and have gaps in their schedules to fill, but spamming every thread here is a red flag.

I wouldn't offer if I didn't know Dog personally. Probably can't help him anyway. (Just remembered that I have your phone number, Grant, so I'll call during the day tomorrow)

...JCARGO ... where in the UK ? Define work with please...What studio facilities, marketing contacts/abilities and what is your experience ? Ta

Is a producer really needed? so long as you got good tastes and know how to make a song better from a demo tape. Most people would take a course in music engineering and do their own producing. Software to do all that and youtube "how to produce" videos to help.
The recession is still going and with the mystery of record, mixing and Producing its not really like the past with the likes of Phill spector and George Martain.
I urge you to watch "Press pause play" Documentary and see how the roles in music are changing to a Do it your self attitude...#just saying

http://youtu.be/-rvlaTg3vPg

Mydogisdead wrote:Is a producer really needed?

Depends on how far you want to go and how soon you want to get there...

Sure, anyone can do it themselves....just like building a house except there's no inspector to bribe if you want to cut corners.





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A good producer is worth his or her weight in gold, but it's a fine line between good and bad, many pitfalls as well.

Never work with a producer that doesn't share your vision or one you do not trust implicitly.

(You'll be sorry if you do)