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Cool song, but do the world a favor... find yourself a real singer not some cookie monster growler

I'd love to get someone capable of clean vocals I like to keep my musical Options Open

Jahva wrote:Cool song, but do the world a favor... find yourself a real singer not some cookie monster growler

The very same was also said when Rock N Roll was coming out. People just can't seem to openly accept all forms of music without some biased =). Yes I growl but I do think all talents have a time and place.

Daniel Towsley wrote:

Jahva wrote:Cool song, but do the world a favor... find yourself a real singer not some cookie monster growler

The very same was also said when Rock N Roll was coming out. People just can't seem to openly accept all forms of music without some biased =). Yes I growl but I do think all talents have a time and place.

DT,
I accept it I just don't like too much of it. I've yet to hear a screamer or whatever you call the style that I could stomach for more than a few songs. That's just my opinion. I'm not even calling it flavor of the day. But I have heard enough of it to have an opinion of it. I have 3 sons and 2 of them at one time or another were into SCREAMO music!
I'm sure there are some really talented people who do it, but it almost always lacks melody. And it always sounds angry.
Xhadow has some talent it would be a waste to me if he got caught up in one style because the singer/ screamer couldn't do much more than SCREAM.
It's not singing to me. Like rapping is not singing.

But then again you may be right I'm old... what the hell would I know about today's music?

The growling detracts from it for me. Many folks like it. I play guitar the sort of rock / metal way so i think about this a lot when considering direction for my own music.

Oddly enough, I make exceptions for Children of Bodom and Arch Enemy - somehow what they do works for me.

Nightwish used to use a growler periodically but for specific roles such as the Devil, Pharoah, et al. It's effective. When the devil growls, "My wickedness shall be your passion!" it is downright chilling.

But to sing that way for everything seems inappropriate to me.

Talbot

Talbot

....Hyper Force ... an apt description. I found all of your posted work to be very impressive. I just wished to complement you. Of course this will no doubt bring out the "chatter" of some Forum Hags so I apologize in advance for that. You are very talented and are to be encouraged. Ta

Vampier wrote:....Hyper Force ... an apt description. I found all of your posted work to be very impressive. I just wished to complement you. Of course this will no doubt bring out the "chatter" of some Forum Hags so I apologize in advance for that. You are very talented and are to be encouraged. Ta

Thanks I Appreciate your compliments it means a lot

Jahva wrote:

Daniel Towsley wrote:

Jahva wrote:Cool song, but do the world a favor... find yourself a real singer not some cookie monster growler

The very same was also said when Rock N Roll was coming out. People just can't seem to openly accept all forms of music without some biased =). Yes I growl but I do think all talents have a time and place.

DT,
I accept it I just don't like too much of it. I've yet to hear a screamer or whatever you call the style that I could stomach for more than a few songs. That's just my opinion. I'm not even calling it flavor of the day. But I have heard enough of it to have an opinion of it. I have 3 sons and 2 of them at one time or another were into SCREAMO music!
I'm sure there are some really talented people who do it, but it almost always lacks melody. And it always sounds angry.
Xhadow has some talent it would be a waste to me if he got caught up in one style because the singer/ screamer couldn't do much more than SCREAM.
It's not singing to me. Like rapping is not singing.

But then again you may be right I'm old... what the hell would I know about today's music?

Not all growls come from metal bands .. maybe thats the greatest misconception about it. Growls are a method of singing not a requirement into only metal. One could technically growl to just about anything. Perspective. You could look up bands to find a difference. I'm not saying you know very little Sir. It is just that age defines us into comfort zones of the times for which we lived. Anything far different than that often times pulls us from that zone. Some accept change some like things the way they are. In either case I appreciate people for being just who they are at the end of the day, themselves =). It doesn't make one better and the other worse. It is again perspective.

The same way rock was back in its day is what metal is now. Food for thought would be .. once metal becomes old and another form replaces it. Those who liked metal may not like this "new" form. Like i had mentioned before its all subjected to perspectives. Hell who knows if I'll like the "new" form myself.

Yes ... one could growl about anything.

But what the hell would be the point?

Seriously ... I cant stand more than five seconds of roar roar music.

That said I can generally tolerate less of some whinny ass coountreee music ether.

So to each his own.

If we were all the same ... what fun would that be?

sanshouheil wrote:Yes ... one could growl about anything.

But what the hell would be the point?

Seriously ... I cant stand more than five seconds of roar roar music.

That said I can generally tolerate less of some whinny ass coountreee music ether.

So to each his own.

If we were all the same ... what fun would that be?

So many try to be the same. Regardless if its one form of music or another. Or a certain way someone dresses to another. Conceptualism of a individualist in todays world has almost become a moot point. It is not to say all have lost this capacity. Only that a few still are. And the same point can thus be made when rock was new. And rockers would sing rock-ified tunes of older musics. Those parents and grandparents and anyone older would have also said the same thing "whats the point?" .. they also called rock "devil music". You proved my point in the aforementioned texts very well. And in par with your final statement I concur. As I had said in my own way "..I appreciate people for being just who they are at the end of the day, themselves.." In the end I do not debate online as that is also a moot point. Consider this my final statement on the matter. And to have wonderful night. One may further the logic herein or leave it as it is. In the end it truly doesn't matter save for the persons perspective.

Hey Bro, I dig your tunes. You have a lot of raw talent. Keep playing and working!
As for the sidebar, even Christina Aguilera growls lol. It's all based on preference. Sometimes we have to agree to disagree on things we like or dislike.

Awesome songs man..I think we have a similar style. Looking to play more metal. it would be badass to jam, but I'm 4+ hrs away from you in Arlington, TX

jacksonsrips wrote:Awesome songs man..I think we have a similar style. Looking to play more metal. it would be badass to jam, but I'm 4+ hrs away from you in Arlington, TX

check out my new song (Waltz with in the Squall)
you should like it

Very nice work, I really like it. One thing, I am not too fond of your intros, but once the guitar kicks in its all good.