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People ask what kind of stuff we're doing and it's hard to answer. Free jazz/rock? I dunno..

noise ... whanking ... doesn't sound like free jazz to me

EX Pair UH Men Tal at best

for me


WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT the Beatles all ready did the "Cut up the tape thing"

Sometimes sound like you're playing 2 different songs at the same time maybe even 3.

You know Jahva around here it was considered
talent to be able to play 2 songs at once.
I used to know an old man back in the 70s
who could play Dixie and Yankee Doodle at
the same time.

I agree with Prevost, nothing wrong with it tho.

LD,
I can dig that...this sounds more like just throwing whatever against the wall to see what schticks. Not thought out to my ears.
Like trying to listen to 2 people talk at the same time and in the end you don't know what either ones point was.
Sorry guys I'm not trying to rip on your approach. If people didn't experiment we wouldn't even have jazz or many great sounds we have today.
It's always easier to walk where someone else has already laid a path to follow. Not so easy to make your own though.
Good Luck to you.

Thanks for the encouragement.

During an improv session like that I just play what's in my head at the time. We all have grooves worn into our brains that are easy to fall back into. It's some type of mental laziness or self preservational fear that draws us back to familiar things. When I feel a groove or rut pulling at me I do my best to turn out of it and get back on virgin ground. The instant you start worrying about what other people think your zen evaporates and you're nothing but a human tape player.

I don't know man, I'm just a street corner
act. I could here something in there I
just don't know what.

Not much for Zen, I only drink water.

Fear, virgin ground, a groove they'll never
evaporate.

Human tape player that is lazy you
should write that down in standard
notation so others could enjoy watching
the contour of the wave of your notes across
the clefs. Your right music will die
one day from laziness.

Merry Christmas lets hear another one.

By the way check out Etu Malku's stuff
weirder than hell but you can hear something
there.

Its improvisational, Experimental... I don't think that it fits any Genre (Not jazz cause there is more formality in jazz than is being expressed here.)


It could be classified as ambient/ mood music. I could see this as the back drop theme... to an art film of some sort.

Either way..Its a great jam session and a good musical workout... You guys should check out Capt Beefheart sometime...

It's distracted improvisation, it has no connection with jazz at all, no more than a man in a bra is a female. it attempts true improvisation but not everyone in the band has agreed to the framework they are following in a normal fashion.
certainly not 12 tone, way too repetitive to be 12 tone.
the drums and bass are not improvising enough for the set to be considered completely random.
it is reminiscent of the early Pink Floyd days when they attempted completely unpredictable events

Really?

That's what you played and recorded?

Did you play it for anyone before you offered that up?

Ahem.. *coughs* lol

nvm...

Ever consider the drums? lol

I'm not really sure what your point is but to answer the questions it's yes, yes and yes and yes again? That's just one little piece of about 40 hours of improv caught on a Zoom 1608. I just picked up a Korg D3200. Looking forward to working with 12 inputs instead of 8.

I do get your drum comment. I've been flutter picking since the 80's and it's definitely percusive. There's only a few guys on the planet who do it, most of them play metal where it gets lost in the distortion. I like doing it with the clean channel so you can hear the notes and the dynamics don't get so compressed.

Anyway, it's just jamming. I have tons of structured original material but much of it's complicated and I'm trying to keep it fun for the other guys so right now I'm just trying to get our freeform sound firing on all cylinders. I've had luck with the jazz format in the past where you have a verse, chorus, go out for a while, come back and finish it out. I agree it's doesn't resemble traditional jazz by most definitions but I've also heard old timers say songs are songs; jazz is what happens when you go outside of the song. My words but that's the general idea.

come on,
you know it is not jazz in any language,
otherwise you wouldn't have started this conversation asking for a classification,


you are searching
this exhibition would be rightly called groping in the dark.

not that there is anything wrong with that,
groping in the dark is part of learning too