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Progressive America is not just about STEALING, It is much worse. Such as hanging Christmas ornaments of a mass murderer ,on the white house Christmas tree.
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Are you really ok with having a baby killers face on the White House Christmas tree.
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GLENJ wrote:Progressive America is not just about STEALING, It is much worse. Such as hanging Christmas ornaments of a mass murderer ,on the white house Christmas tree.
MAO TSAO TUNG
Are you really ok with having a baby killers face on the White House Christmas tree.
AMERICA , WELCOME HOME.

Somebody put a picture of Mao on a Christmas tree? That's the funniest and weirdest thing I ever heard. Mao was a true Christian believer, wasn't he? In fact, he believed in Christ so much he OUTLAWED ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHRIST WHEN HE TOOK POWER IN CHINA. It sure is appropriate to put a picture of Mao on a Christmas tree. It would look good on the tree next to pictures of Lenin, Stalin, Che Guevara, and Fidel Castro. For that matter I'd put a picture of Assholedidajob, the leader of Iran, on the same tree...a perfect White House Christmas tree indeed...

Gee, do you think the republicans will do anything besides line their own coffers?

I heard Joe Liberman got over 1 mil to vote down the healthcare bill personally. (You are going to hell, boy)

I don't have health insurance , nor dental coverage.

I guess because I don't make 100,000$ a year, I don't deserve to be covered either right?

Or I should pay out of pocket, right?

I think I am moving to Canada, you can have what's left.
Maybe Sweden, but the tax is around 30%.

This country is about to get worse, not better.

(stay low and keep your head down)

Well, the Democrats really have no one to blame but Coakly. She acted like she was entitled to the seat, and didn't campaign like it was actually up for grabs. That just sends the wrong message to your constituents.

You are a PUBLIC SERVANT. You aren't ENTITLED to sh*t.

I hate seeing a Republican win that seat because I know what the means for Obama's health care plans and a lot of other good work that could get done; it's totally going to hamper our government's ability to enact any meaningful change. But it is what it is...

It's a shame that politicians are such assholes.

Scotty is right. This is a complete failure of what is supposed to be the most people voted for system on Earth? Elect a guy on 80% then stuff a load of wrenches in the wheels as he tries to undo what has been done.

As for the Lady contender not doing what some might think she should have done, spend millions on marketing?

I'm sick of that. All will come out in the wash. Of that I am totally certain.

Capt. Scott wrote:Maybe Sweden, but the tax is around 30%.

This country is about to get worse, not better.

(stay low and keep your head down)

Hey Cap, after sales tax, income tax, sin tax, etc, you ARE paying at least 30%!

Chippy wrote:As for the Lady contender not doing what some might think she should have done, spend millions on marketing?

It's not about that Chippy. It's about having the passion to serve the public good (or at least ACTING like you have the passion to serve the public good).

Coakly acted like she was ENTITLED to the seat. Did you read the comment last week where she said this?

Coakley bristles at the suggestion that, with so little time left, in an election with such high stakes, she is being too passive.

“As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?’’

I mean, Jesus, excuse me, but you are supposed to be working to convince people you actually want to SERVE them as a PUBLIC SERVANT, not as some rich bitch who thinks shes entitle to the seat just because her party has had control of it for the past 50+ years.

This is what pisses me off about politicians. They FORGET that they serve US. We're they're constituents, and we elect THEM to represent US!

And she acted like the seat was already hers and she didn't have to convince anyone of anything.

As a guy who votes Democrat myself (because there are hardly any Libertarians to vote for) I found that juts disgusting... And disappointing.

She didn't need to spend millions on advertising. She needed to be OUT THERE in the cold, if necessary, and yes, at Fenway, a Boston landmark for crying out loud, shaking hands and convincing the people of Massachusetts that she wanted to work for THEM on their behalf to solve real problems.

She didn't do that, and she lost. Lesson to everyone, it should be.

Yoda has spoken...

The real irony is that the voters voiced their opposition to gridlock by voting for .... more gridlock.

Not that either party is part of the solution anymore.

^^ amen to that ^^

That was probably the smartest thing said in a long while, in the fewest words too!

Praps just me? Prob is?
I just don't see things the way you people do? Why elect someone only to have a million debates and a Billion spent (or more) on more debates?

I thought electing someone meant that they had the final say, permissions, graduates agreeing ensemble of course? America is more than confusing. Its more like a procreative virus that has a self embellishing and democratic view based on principle ideology, yet it cannot seed.

The reason for that is hurdles. Just hurdles, more talk, more TV highlights, more book writers, more people, even more people than before and then more some.

More Talk, and more talk.

Chippy wrote:I thought electing someone meant that they had the final say,

Nope, doesn't work that like here Chippy.

You elect people to represent YOU. And then you hope those people work together collaboratively to solve problems.


Government should be about problem solving (it isn't always, but that's bureaucracy for you).

Example: someone kills a teenage girl. Most people don't want that to happen, so we have to enact laws to prevent it, hire a police force to enforce the law, and hire judges to oversee the judicial system we've created. Our hope is that we can (a) prevent such crimes in the first place with an adequate police force or (b) try and punish the appropriate offenders if it does happen.

Well, without government in place, we, the citizens have to perform all those duties. But we've got our own lives to run, so we vote to elect people to represent OUR INTERESTS and to work on OUR BEHALF to make sure that the things we VALUE are taken care of.

We don't elect leaders to make unilateral decisions. In the states, you elect two kinds of people to REPRESENT you. The first kind is a State senator. Each state gets two Senators to represent them. The other kind is a Congressman, and each state gets a certain number of congressman to represent them based on population size.

So, when you go vote for people you're voting for them to represent YOUR INTERESTS. If you're a small business owner, you're going to want to find someone who represents your interests as a small business owner...

These people we elect - Senators and Congressman - we elect them to represent us. They serve US. They are supposed to work on OUR BEHALF.

But unfortunately, they often don't. Often times they succumb to corruption, and sell their services to the highest bidder, in our case, lobbyists who represent specific interests, like the gun lobby or the cigarette lobby or the health insurance lobby. So, while you may elect someone you hope represents your interests and understands your interests, they may actually turn on you and work for other people instead...

It's not a perfect system.

Perhaps the voters were just tired of being threatened by the AFL CIO?
I would have them wash or replace dead ted's seat before I'd sat in it.

Colors, what the heck are you talking about meaningfull change? Every thing sounds wonderful when you talk about socialist "progressive" change, except ....Who the hell is going to pay for it? Just steal it, make your grandchildren pay for it , just print money ,create inflation, create economic equality ,everyone is equal.
On a personal level I dont want to find out my brain surgeon makes the same money as the guy sweeping the floor at Burger King,[T.M.] But still this is where your thinking is going.
If you want health care go the f**k out and work enough to afford what you need, if you truly need help I will give it to you freely, But dont you dare put a gun to my head and demand. I need a new mercedes, any help here.
This is America,,, If you work hard and the govt doesnt steal to much you can succeed and reach any goals desire.
Our tax rates are out of sight. there is a real "TRICKLE " down that happens, That box of cereal , that gallon of milk, that new shirt or shoes,,,, ALL THE TAXES THOSE CORPS PAY,,,,,,, GET PASSED ON TO Y O U.

Good example, before Christmas, we had a 2foot snowstorm. We have a young couple with a new baby , moved in across the street. After 15 minutes of watching them trying to clear out their driveway and not getting very far ,, I went and got my boots on and fired up my snowblower. I showed them how to use the equipment and let them go at it.
The point is I shared the wealth but I will be damned if I was going to clear the driveway with my labor.
I will help to give you the tools ,but you have to work. It is that simple.
After that you are just stealing from me. Oh and yes ,,, that does not mean we dont protect the weak , because the very start of this story was about people in a weak position. Get it yet.

Americans' voting is all based on FEAR, these days. No one is voting FOR anything anymore, just AGAINST that which someone has told us is the "most frightening risk to your freedoms & overall well-being."

It would be funny, if it weren't so sadly true.

Where has the American progressive spirit gone? Are things really that perfect as they stand? Are those changes really that scary?

Personally, I'd be more willing to vote for someone who wants to UNwrite some of these laws that ppl so desperately thought we needed in the past (MADD - I HATE what you represent to me!), & actually start to work toward some sort of solution to the problems that face us, but we're all so caught up in jargon & slogans & emotional knee-jerk responses that we can't seem to move in any positive direction, while those who have the power & the means to either inform us, or lead us, seem to be most interested in frightening us to stop any movement in any direction.

The static state of the Union is what's frightening me the most, right now. Our nation is like a deer caught in the headlights, & can't make any real decision about any move in any direction.