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Put down the crack pipe and step away. Many people regard the guitar solo in AATW as one of the best in r&r. Did you know that Jimi also played bass on that tune? He got tired of waiting for Noel and laid it down.

LOL And the screaming hardcore is much more musical that that era was?

Go on, quit deluding yourself. If you aren't creative in an artistic sense, try hooking up with someone that is.

There is a market for that crap, but no self-respecting musician is going to shake your hand and tell you what a big fan he/she is. Even Peter Steele is partial to a melodic sound and if that "Herman Munster" is doing it, than you can too. (Pete I loved your music until I saw you live and you were so drunk, you couldn't speak the lyrics let alone sing them)

I'd rather play FOLK, than hardcore or any derivation thereof. And I detest folk, in my understanding of the words.

PS: All along the watchtower sucks. It was popular, but who cares.

Wow... You're just full of contradictions, aren't you? I make the point that Bob Dylan managed to convince a bunch of pot-heads that he was deep and you come back saying that he's validated because he made a lot of money. Then you disregard the money made by the so-called "hardcore" scene, because you don't like their music. I don't particularly like it any more than I do Bob Dylan. I don't deny that there is money to be made in any genre of music, given the appropriate audience, whether I approve of the music or not.

My initial point was that typically, when people go to see a big band of yesteryear, they just want to hear the music, not breaks in the music while the band hypocritically spouts off. I further feel that if you are going to do so, you should at least have the courage of your convictions and not change your position just because it isn't popular with a given audience. It tends to point out the shallow-ness of your positions.

You are reading into it.

I don't like hardcore, as it is my opinion it is non-musical. Bob Dylan, although I am not his greatest fan, was musical. His writing was lofty and inspired.

Would I play hardcore if I was assured a large amount of money? f**k NO.

Would I respect the fact that they were successful, of course.

Would I be content to play/write what I love regardless of whether or not it was widely successful, BUT OF COURSE.

Too much bullshit that goes on in this business and if I had to perform something I didn't completely love, it wouldn't be worth it to me at all.

My earlier post said that if you are to spout verbal excrement, make sure you do it after you perform and only if the crowd really liked you. Else you may get the hurled beer bottle as well or didn't you see that one?

You are reading into it.

I don't like hardcore, as it is my opinion it is non-musical. Bob Dylan, although I am not his greatest fan, was musical. His writing was lofty and inspired.

Would I play hardcore if I was assured a large amount of money? f**k NO.

Would I respect the fact that they were successful, of course.

Would I be content to play/write what I love regardless of whether or not it was widely successful, BUT OF COURSE.

Too much bullshit that goes on in this business and if I had to perform something I didn't completely love, it wouldn't be worth it to me at all.

My earlier post said that if you are to spout verbal excrement, make sure you do it after you perform and only if the crowd really liked you. Else you may get the hurled beer bottle as well or didn't you see that one?

I think we're on the same page here.

Apparently, you have difficulty grasping the idea that there is some difference between a comedian who has made a career of political rantings and past their prime musicians who fail to practice what they preach, so allow me to assist you...

A comedian's entire performance is based on his words. If you don't pay attention to what he is saying, you don't get the joke. Music is a bit different. There are a great many people who have absolutely no idea what the lyrics of a given song mean. Many times, they just like the song. People go to see George Carlin to hear his take on current situations (right or wrong is a matter of opinion... I'm not here to talk politics). People go to these reunion shows to hear songs they grew up with and to relive a bit of their past. That's why people usually don't want to hear the new crap that gets thrown into gigs by yesterday's greats.

Bob Dylan is a bit of a special situation. The guy managed to convince a whole generation of junkies that he was deep as a way of pushing subpar music and a lack of singing ability.

Here endeth the lesson.

Lesson? You don't make a very good teacher. I'd say the day job beckons.

First of all, where is it written that performing artists can't throw an opinion into their shows? Isn't much of their material based on their sentiments, if not outright penned on them? Here's my homework assigment for you - go watch "Shut Up and Sing" about the travails of The Dixie Chicks.

Secondly, why pander to the ignorance of much of the public? Yeah they may like the music. But what are the words for, filler? Something to mouth to keep time? No. They are part and parcel of the song. It's called songsmithing for a reason. Words mean things, and the public won't wither and die because the words finally sink in. Hell, they may even learn something.

Recess over.

Apparently, you have difficulty grasping the idea that there is some difference between a comedian who has made a career of political rantings and past their prime musicians who fail to practice what they preach, so allow me to assist you...

A comedian's entire performance is based on his words. If you don't pay attention to what he is saying, you don't get the joke. Music is a bit different. There are a great many people who have absolutely no idea what the lyrics of a given song mean. Many times, they just like the song. People go to see George Carlin to hear his take on current situations (right or wrong is a matter of opinion... I'm not here to talk politics). People go to these reunion shows to hear songs they grew up with and to relive a bit of their past. That's why people usually don't want to hear the new crap that gets thrown into gigs by yesterday's greats.

Bob Dylan is a bit of a special situation. The guy managed to convince a whole generation of junkies that he was deep as a way of pushing subpar music and a lack of singing ability.

Here endeth the lesson.

Lesson? You don't make a very good teacher. I'd say the day job beckons.

First of all, where is it written that performing artists can't throw an opinion into their shows? Isn't much of their material based on their sentiments, if not outright penned on them? Here's my homework assigment for you - go watch "Shut Up and Sing" about the travails of The Dixie Chicks.

Secondly, why pander to the ignorance of much of the public? Yeah they may like the music. But what are the words for, filler? Something to mouth to keep time? No. They are part and parcel of the song. It's called songsmithing for a reason. Words mean things, and the public won't wither and die because the words finally sink in. Hell, they may even learn something.

Recess over.

Strange... I don't recall spending recess listening to tired drivel. I never said that a band can't state their opinions. But, if they do, they need to learn to expect a reaction... Sometimes positive, and sometimes negative. In my opinion, the show sucked because I, obviously as well as many others in attendence, just wanted to hear the songs that made them famous 40 years ago. Not some hypocritical bullshit about how no one should make money but them. I see why you defend them, though. It seems they aren't the only ones who have a higher opinion of themselves than is deserved.

And I really don't give a sh*t about the Dixie Chicks. I think there music sucks regardless of their political leanings.

And I really don't give a sh*t about the Dixie Chicks. I think there music sucks regardless of their political leanings.

That one sure flew over your noggin, didn't it. It's not ABOUT whether you like their music or not. The point of the film was about whether pop artists have the right to air their socio/political opinions in public based on the political orientation of those views.

Let me know if you need me to type that slower.

And I really don't give a sh*t about the Dixie Chicks. I think there music sucks regardless of their political leanings.

That one sure flew over your noggin, didn't it. It's not ABOUT whether you like their music or not. The point of the film was about whether pop artists have the right to air their socio/political opinions in public based on the political orientation of those views.

Let me know if you need me to type that slower.

I don't give a sh*t what the movie is about reject. I've never said an "artist" doesn't have the right to say whatever they want. I said that sometimes it not appreciated, as in the case I mentioned. However, so many fail to realize that people have the right to choose what they do or don't want to support. If the Dixie Chicks piss some people off, they should expect a reaction and quit f**k crying about it.

All this from the fact that I didn't like the Crosby, Stills and Nash concert... Do you just have a chub for David Crosby or something. You'd think I just called your girlfriend fat or something. Provided you had one.

Ok, boys at the sound of the bell come out swinging. LOL

1) Dixie Chicks make me ill and if they had anything to say, I would immediately tune it out.

2) Was it OZZY that said and I quote, "I don't want to change the world and I don't want it to change me"?

Politics and music make for strange bed fellows!

Please do not misconstrue and don't read into the posts, it will no doubt give you a migraine. lol

I don't give a sh*t what the movie is about reject. I've never said an "artist" doesn't have the right to say whatever they want. I said that sometimes it not appreciated, as in the case I mentioned. However, so many fail to realize that people have the right to choose what they do or don't want to support. If the Dixie Chicks piss some people off, they should expect a reaction and quit f**k crying about it.

All this from the fact that I didn't like the Crosby, Stills and Nash concert... Do you just have a chub for David Crosby or something. You'd think I just called your girlfriend fat or something. Provided you had one.

I love it when they devolve to crass insults - like cornered animals.

*chuckle*

You ought to be well practiced with Music Mage hovering about like one of satan's angels..lol

I don't give a sh*t what the movie is about reject. I've never said an "artist" doesn't have the right to say whatever they want. I said that sometimes it not appreciated, as in the case I mentioned. However, so many fail to realize that people have the right to choose what they do or don't want to support. If the Dixie Chicks piss some people off, they should expect a reaction and quit f**k crying about it.

All this from the fact that I didn't like the Crosby, Stills and Nash concert... Do you just have a chub for David Crosby or something. You'd think I just called your girlfriend fat or something. Provided you had one.

I love it when they devolve to crass insults - like cornered animals.

*chuckle*

I love it when people are incapable of coming back with anything better than crying about an insult, while completely avoiding the substance of the post as a whole.

I love it when people are incapable of coming back with anything better than crying about an insult, while completely avoiding the substance of the post as a whole.

Substance? Your post had substance? Where?

I love it when people are incapable of coming back with anything better than crying about an insult, while completely avoiding the substance of the post as a whole.

Substance? Your post had substance? Where?

That says more about you than it does me.

It's not my fault you are incapable of comprehending. It's somewhat like arguing with a third grader... They just don't get it.

He's trying to replace Music Mage.