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#205329 by Starfish Scott
Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:44 pm
lol Sounds like the dating game..

Cliff, your idea sounds like it could work..just seems harder than it has to be.

Maybe you just want to take piano/keys lessons?
Could be a means to an end in the interim, who knows?

#205330 by poprockdude
Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:46 pm
Jahva wrote:
poprockdude wrote:I am however, willing to play for some music teachers, and for people that might run a music program at a church and without having to commit to attending services at the church, like talking through an online forum, form networking circles.


That's one of the smartest things you've said Cliff... could be a good direction to find other like minds. There are collaboration sites as well. You won't be hanging out in the same room but you can create music and still make friends through some sites.


I really don't know much about music recording, and thus I probably don't have any good quality tools. If I did, I'd have lots of videos up and some audio samples up. Therefore, I really can't take full advantage of such sites.
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#205331 by poprockdude
Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:49 pm
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:lol Sounds like the dating game..

Cliff, your idea sounds like it could work..just seems harder than it has to be.

Maybe you just want to take piano/keys lessons?
Could be a means to an end in the interim, who knows?


Now you are getting closer. However, I would like to learn more advanced skills, and also I would like the lessons to be casual. You know, friends teaching friends, and then spend some time doing other activities together, like playing video games, shooting the breeze with a couple of his friends over lunch and the like.

I would like to learn stuff like sequencing, using synth pads and synth lead sounds more effectively, play around with drum machines and a variety of keyboards, and learn about different software programs that allows you to add even more effects to music like reverb, echo, flange, chorus, pitch bend, and many other effects, and of course, learning about music recording where real instruments are used.

#205334 by Jahva
Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:03 pm
Well you're a smart guy... you have a computer and if you can spend a few dollars you can do plenty of home recordings. It really doesn't take much. There's even FREE recording software you can upload.
The other aspects will throw up red flags to most... people.
Makes you sound lonely and pathetic... cut that chit out! Friendships develop on their own time.
You can't expect someone to answer some ad "Wanted friend and semi-keyboard player to play Lady GaGa and to teach me and hang out for lunch while we play video games"

Scary dude... people will run fast and far from that.

#205339 by poprockdude
Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:53 pm
Jahva wrote:Well you're a smart guy... you have a computer and if you can spend a few dollars you can do plenty of home recordings. It really doesn't take much. There's even FREE recording software you can upload.
The other aspects will throw up red flags to most... people.
Makes you sound lonely and pathetic... cut that chit out! Friendships develop on their own time.
You can't expect someone to answer some ad "Wanted friend and semi-keyboard player to play Lady GaGa and to teach me and hang out for lunch while we play video games"

Scary dude... people will run fast and far from that.


I know how friendships work. And I don't word ads that way. I do stress the friendship aspect in the ad, to prevent my ads from reaching music prodcuers, music teachers, and the committed musicians who play in bands or at their church. I also list a WIDE variety of artists I enjoy playing which span the 70s to the present to give the person reviewing the ad a good idea of what my definition of pop and soft rock music is.

Also the plan was to not rely on the ad doing all the work, but to actually be able to post the ad, and stick around at the place where I posted the ad, and well, be part of a group and share ideas and mingle.

The idea behind this search is to ALSO make some general friends along the way as well. Preferrably using groups that meet in person, AND which have a little online board to stay connected with the group when not at the physical place.
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#205340 by poprockdude
Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:59 pm
Jahva wrote:Well you're a smart guy... you have a computer and if you can spend a few dollars you can do plenty of home recordings. It really doesn't take much. There's even FREE recording software you can upload.The other aspects will throw up red flags to most... people.
Makes you sound lonely and pathetic... cut that chit out! Friendships develop on their own time.
You can't expect someone to answer some ad "Wanted friend and semi-keyboard player to play Lady GaGa and to teach me and hang out for lunch while we play video games"

Scary dude... people will run fast and far from that.


Here's another thing. Before downloading or buying any sort of software. It's nice to be able to make some friends who can show me some GOOD quality software and also learn about any additional hardware I might need to make recording easier and sound better.

#205341 by poprockdude
Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:24 pm
Here's the basic idea behind most of my ads:

"My name is Clifford and I love playing my keyboard and listening to and playing pop and soft rock covers. I am looking for a buddy to hang out with who really enjoys playing and listening to pop and soft rock music, and doing additional activities like playing video games. I am legally blind so I cannot drive so I would greatly appreciate it if you provide some assistance in that area.

In terms of music, I'm looking for a studio keyboard player. Someone who can help me move beyond playing covers, and as a friend, play around with music recording/mixing software. Depending on how things go, we could form a project that plays for wedding receptions and other private parties. My tastes span the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s and I'm always checking out anything new. When working on and playing covers, we won't just focus on the hits. There are some deeper cuts that I'd like to recreate.

[Contact information goes here]"

#205342 by Jahva
Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:01 pm
poprockdude wrote:Here's the basic idea behind most of my ads:

"My name is Clifford and I love playing my keyboard and listening to and playing pop and soft rock covers. I am looking for a buddy to hang out with who really enjoys playing and listening to pop and soft rock music, and doing additional activities like playing video games. I am legally blind so I cannot drive so I would greatly appreciate it if you provide some assistance in that area.

In terms of music, I'm looking for a studio keyboard player. Someone who can help me move beyond playing covers, and as a friend, play around with music recording/mixing software. Depending on how things go, we could form a project that plays for wedding receptions and other private parties. My tastes span the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s and I'm always checking out anything new. When working on and playing covers, we won't just focus on the hits. There are some deeper cuts that I'd like to recreate.

[Contact information goes here]"


Not bad Cliff I still think the whole "Friend " thing sounds a little creepy but what do I know.
Another suggestion if you have Sam Ash or a Guitar Center stores near you they both have free classes to learn software for newbies. They also have open acoustic jams, free Eukelel lessons at Sam Ash or GC. I know most of the Sam Ash locations have a stage and do a once or twice a month open mic kind of thing where you can go and do a performance.
If you go to their sites you'll see they offer a lot of things to get you in the door and to be active.
Also one of them has School of Rock where you take lessons in a group setting to do a performance.

I'm not saying you should play acoustic guitar or take up the Eukelele but it may be a way for you to meet musicians who aren't all serious and pro-level.
Keyboard players are usually in demand you should be able to find something close to your expectation. But I still say keep the friend thing out of your ad! Get yourself a puppy.

#205352 by poprockdude
Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:26 pm
Jahva wrote:
poprockdude wrote:Here's the basic idea behind most of my ads:

"My name is Clifford and I love playing my keyboard and listening to and playing pop and soft rock covers. I am looking for a buddy to hang out with who really enjoys playing and listening to pop and soft rock music, and doing additional activities like playing video games. I am legally blind so I cannot drive so I would greatly appreciate it if you provide some assistance in that area.

In terms of music, I'm looking for a studio keyboard player. Someone who can help me move beyond playing covers, and as a friend, play around with music recording/mixing software. Depending on how things go, we could form a project that plays for wedding receptions and other private parties. My tastes span the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s and I'm always checking out anything new. When working on and playing covers, we won't just focus on the hits. There are some deeper cuts that I'd like to recreate.

[Contact information goes here]"


Not bad Cliff I still think the whole "Friend " thing sounds a little creepy but what do I know.
Another suggestion if you have Sam Ash or a Guitar Center stores near you they both have free classes to learn software for newbies. They also have open acoustic jams, free Eukelel lessons at Sam Ash or GC. I know most of the Sam Ash locations have a stage and do a once or twice a month open mic kind of thing where you can go and do a performance.
If you go to their sites you'll see they offer a lot of things to get you in the door and to be active.
Also one of them has School of Rock where you take lessons in a group setting to do a performance.

I'm not saying you should play acoustic guitar or take up the Eukelele but it may be a way for you to meet musicians who aren't all serious and pro-level.
Keyboard players are usually in demand you should be able to find something close to your expectation. But I still say keep the friend thing out of your ad! Get yourself a puppy.


I'm sorry, but I'm not a pet person, and I am not taking the "friend" thing out of my ad. I want a few human companions. First a few general friends who I maybe hang out with and play video games with, or go check out a movie with, or go to a Christmas party with, or whatever, then a few guys who share my passion for playing pop and soft rock music, starting with a fellow keyboard player who is a little bit more advanced than me, and who would be glad to teach me some new skills the way FRIENDS do, no money invovled.

Keyboard players in my area are not really in high demand, especially when it comes to pop music. Most people in my area want to form full blown hard rock and metal bands, and of course, the guitar is in high demand and when there is a keyboard player that is in high demand, he's not into pop. Don't believe me? Go to Craigslist, click on Baton Rouge, and go to Community > Musicians.


And well, there isn't a Sam Ash near me, and the Guitar Center store near me doesn't offer any other services besides retail, plus, it's kind of out of the way to get to. It takes a good 45 minutes to get there compared to 10 minutes. Therefore, it's hard for me to monitor the ad, and again, as I've said, I need to be able to interact with people around my age as part of a non-profit common interest club.

You've also got to take into account where in Baton Rouge this guy lives in relation to where I live. If he has to drive 30 minutes or more to come pick me up, and then drive ALL the way back to his place or if my mom or dad is going to have to drive me there every time, that relationship is not going to go well, even if this guy had most of the qualities I'm looking for. I would much rather like to find someone who lives 10 minutes away from me, that way it wouldn't be such a hassle for him to come pick me up. Yes, the jam would have to take place at his place because my mom and dad are always at the house, and there isn't a GOOD place for us to play.

#205385 by GuitarMikeB
Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:54 pm
WAH WAH WAH WAH

Give it up guys, you have tried to help Cliffie so much, but he wants someone to hold his hand.

#205393 by poprockdude
Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:11 pm
GuitarMikeB wrote:WAH WAH WAH WAH

Give it up guys, you have tried to help Cliffie so much, but he wants someone to hold his hand.


Don't say things like that. Try to relate to my situation, and try to relate to what my ultimate goal is in terms of music right now, which is finding a few guys around my age to just spend some time with who has a passion for playing pop and soft rock music, as well as playing video games, and doing whatever. My goal right now is NOT for profit.

And also take into account whenever I post an ad, I am thinking about the other person's music tastes, location, and schedule as well. I would like to reach someone who is free to hang out during the afternoon and evening and lives decently close to me (10 minutes or 5 minutes away) and SHOWS a passion for a lot more of the artists I enjoy.

You won't believe how many people I gave a decent try, and had to turn down due to them NOT having enough passion and knowledge of the various artists I enjoy, or turning someone down due to that person actually being a music producer or music teacher.

Anyway, please avoid trashing this topic and don't say anything that you'll regret later. Take it easy.
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#205394 by PaperDog
Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:17 pm
Oh Dear... Glambert ran out of his meds... There must be some way to contact the orderlies...

#205400 by Starfish Scott
Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:27 pm
lol This sounds like an AA meeting.

"My name is Clifford and I'm an alcoholic".
(crowd) "Hello Clifford"...

Ok time for coffee and donuts. LOL

#205401 by poprockdude
Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:33 pm
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:lol This sounds like an AA meeting.

"My name is Clifford and I'm an alcoholic".
(crowd) "Hello Clifford"...

Ok time for coffee and donuts. LOL


Remember, if there's something that feels weird to you, don't be afraid to ask questions to understand me better.

I need to use more sites similar to this, and learn about some other music stores in my area where I can post ads. That's been another problem in my request, not having enough places to get the word out.

Also another problem I've been having in my search is not having a good reliable way to monitor my ad. It would be a lot nicer if there was a way I could post an ad, and stick around at the place where I posted the request, and mingle with other like-minded people. This would also give me the oppurtunity to audition both myself AND the person, since putting links in a printed ad is not the best idea, and since I don't have a lot of music up anyway.

Also I don't understand why, but no one hardly EVER contacts me anymore. Starting around February and ending around October, I put an ad up at Guitar Center all year, and the only guy that contacted me was someone who wanted to invite me to play in his OFFICALLY named Maroon 5 project. That was the ONLY response I got the whole year.

#205402 by poprockdude
Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:54 pm
As I siad, I'll just keep posting my request at Guitar Center, and see what happens. If you guys have some more good ideas, don't be afriad to share. And remember to be patient with me. And please, don't get mad at me whenever I say that the idea isn't the best idea.

And thanks for those who were currently helping me out.

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