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#86415 by Black57
Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:08 am
fisherman bob wrote:There's so many different types of jazz. To say that you won't play this style or that style is bizarre. Just as there's so many styles of blues. When looking for new players I often hear that I won't play any Hendrix or I don't play delta blues or I don't whatever. Why not just get together anyway and play and see what you sound like together. I tell people that we do some Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes and people say they don't play like him. So what? Play Pride and Joy whichever way you want and see what it sounds like. I DON'T CARE. When I hear people start pigeon-holing what they like and what they dislike I interpret that as being NARROW MINDED. You'll never know what the entire band sounds like UNTIL YOU GET YOUR BUTTS TOGETHER AND GIVE IT A TRY...


Ditto...that being said..."Rock and Roll" is another form of jazz.

#86424 by Kramerguy
Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:42 am
The only thing I can't stand is the pretension that surrounds jazz, blues, etc..

There's a lot of people who just seethe about how 'hard' it is to understand or play this or that genre of music. I've personally found that the difficulty is moot. There's "rock" songs that range everywhere from easy to extremely difficult to play. Same with blues, jazz, and every other type of music.

it gets old.

#86447 by RhythmMan
Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:37 pm
Bob, I don't think it's closed minded to not play music you don't like.
I don't like rap, flamenco or opera, either; so why on earth would I want to play any of that stuff?
If I don't like a song, or style, I'm not going to play it.
I don't need to invest time re-working someone else's song. I used to do that, but it's not satisfying, anymore.
Hell, in 5 minutes I can make up something brand new (which I'll inevitably like better, anyway).
Why be a 2nd rate copy of someone else, when you can be a 1st-rate version of yourself?
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I'm just gonna play whatever moves me at the time, no matter what style it is.
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#86454 by gbheil
Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:43 pm
I'm just gonna play whatever moves me at the time, no matter what style it is.



More often than not its ROCK ! But I totally agree Alan.

#86476 by jimmydanger
Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:42 am
Those who can rock, rock. Those who can't, play jazz.

#86491 by fisherman bob
Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:27 am
RhythmMan wrote:Bob, I don't think it's closed minded to not play music you don't like.
I don't like rap, flamenco or opera, either; so why on earth would I want to play any of that stuff?
If I don't like a song, or style, I'm not going to play it.
I don't need to invest time re-working someone else's song. I used to do that, but it's not satisfying, anymore.
Hell, in 5 minutes I can make up something brand new (which I'll inevitably like better, anyway).
Why be a 2nd rate copy of someone else, when you can be a 1st-rate version of yourself?
.
I'm just gonna play whatever moves me at the time, no matter what style it is.
.
Maybe I mis-spoke when I said something about being narrow minded. What I meant was when somebody says I won't play such and such a tune or such and such an artist because I don't like it, why not play that tune or artist THE WAY YOU WANT AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. It's not sacrilege to play a Stevie Ray Vaughan tune (Texas style blues) in a Chicago blues style or in an accoustic style. People get so rigid in the style or genre they are used to and don't try and do anything creative with tunes. We've got a few tunes where I put together a blues instrumental with a surf instrumental, or I take an instrumental and put vocals from a completely different tune into it. IF somebody contacts me and says they absolutely love Government Mule for example, I'm not going to play one of their tunes like Government Mule. I'm open minded enough to try a tune. The result may not sound anything like the original but it may be equally interesting none-the-less. I've gone on auditions and tell people all the songs I do and when they say we're NOT doing a bunch of them because "I don't like"them, I just pack up and leave...

#86492 by RhythmMan
Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:01 am
Hey, Jimmy, you said,"Those who can rock, rock. Those who can't, play jazz."
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Yeah, yeah - that sure sounds good, - but it's a a load of horse-pucky.
I played rock for over 20 years.
Do you really think I'm not experienced enough (anymore) to play rock?
I play jazz, now because I find it more interesting, and there's a lot more variety.
It has nothing to do with how hard or easy it is.
We all play what we like to play.
You play rock because you like rock.
I play Jazz (and a dozen other styles) - because that's what I like.
But, hell, I'm not going to try to insult rock musicians . . . what's the point?

#86493 by Black57
Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:16 am
jimmydanger wrote:Those who can rock, rock. Those who can't, play jazz.


You do realize that don't EVEN make sense? Dontcha? Especially since jazz seperates the boys from the girls...don't make me climb in there!!!
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#86495 by Hayden King
Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:06 am
did that guy ever respond to this?
:? :P

#86501 by philbymon
Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:10 am
I am laughing so hard here!

:lol: :lol: :roll: :lol: :lol: :shock: :lol: :lol: :P :lol: :lol:

You ppl is funny!

Jazzos take their stuff so seriously, for a buncha pot-smokin' pretentious slop-hounds with a full catalogue of chords that should never EVER be played...& rockers with their pants & their wigs oh so tight, they smoke the pot too, ya know, while they play everything too frikken loud & too frikken fast...& the country guys who whallop their way through everything & smoke that there corn silk & drink the corn liquor to get that icky twang in everything they can yodel...& the bluegrassers with their lil cowpies are prolly smoking too to get that nasally whine in all they do...& the rapperists who smoke that crack stuff & make everybody wanna fight each other to the death...& the smokin' folksies who just piss me off (give peace a chance my ass!)...& the 'lectros who HAFTA be smokin' sumpin to make them horribillifried noises...& the r&b'ers who hafta sing scales to get any cred before they smoke their stash & get dressed up in the spandex just to fit in with the rest of the hoes out there...

Have I left anyone out? Well, f*ck you, too! I'm in a mooooooood tonight!

Has anyone seen my e-ciggy? I feel a little funny...well...more like a little aggressive...

#86507 by jimmydanger
Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:30 pm
That was hilarious Phil! Everyone takes themselves way too seriously, especially here.

#86510 by Black57
Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:16 pm
Hayden King wrote:did that guy ever respond to this?
:? :P


Hayden, I think he responded once :roll:

#86513 by RhythmMan
Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:35 pm
Dougmeister, who started this thread, has apparently simply ignored all 3 pages of our responses.

#86518 by philbymon
Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:48 pm
Can't hardly blame him, really...I know that I need to stop posting at 3AM when I can't sleep & I'm a grumpy grampy & stuff...

There's hardly anything worthy of our time left here in this thread, I fear...we've degenerated into taking it all a bit personal or sumpin...

It's all simply a matter of personal preference, after all. No point in taking it personally if someone prefers strawberry over your chocolate...yet we keep thinking "if only they'd TASTE it, then they'd see how right I am." Never works like that in r/l, though...

I like SOME jazz...just like I like SOME r&r, SOME soul & r&b, SOME country, SOME 'lectro, SOME bluegrass...but I'm just a dabbler, & I see no point in delving too deeply into one music form...I get bored quickly.

#86533 by jw123
Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:44 pm
I listen to jazz on XM radio all the time.

Jazz players take themselves way to serious in my opinion. I studied Jazz in college and played some gigs in a Jazz outfit, but give me wild screaming women and a screaming guitar anyday of the week. The whole reason I ever started playing music was to impress women. It has served me well over the years and the wilder the better. Oddly enough the latest gf listens to jazz, but I prefer when she and I go dancing to the hard core booty shaking stuff. She has a very diverse taste in music, so these days whatever she wants to listen to thats where you will find me!

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