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the only reason why i haven't posted any songs up you effin retarded "musician" so called fellow "respectable" ones at that is because they are not copyrighted yet i am very serious about my music and how dare you accuse me of otherwise if beyond me i don't have to validate myself but i wrote over 23 songs this year alone...ok thank very much sirs and misses

LOL So says "the run on no spelling or punctuation verbose girl".

ISH band = <3

Don't throw away your cliff notes.

I feel bad for this young lady

the only reason why i haven't posted any songs up you effin retarded "musician" so called fellow "respectable" ones at that is because they are not copyrighted yet i am very serious about my music and how dare you accuse me of otherwise if beyond me i don't have to validate myself but i wrote over 23 songs this year alone...ok thank very much sirs and misses

Is this response directed at me?

Please tell me it was.

I doubt it. She's heavy into "better living via prescription pharmaceuticals". lol

If she's gunning for anyone it would be myself and/or Irminsul. Big Surprise there.

You have to go to her my space page. I read that thing throughly and I laughed so hard I cried. LOL

I wasn't going to get on her like I know you and Irminsul can. I don't have a problem with arrogance so to speak if one can back it up. However to talk smack with nothing to show for it, well that is kind of weak.

To say one is serious about music and not have anything copywritten, let alone know that is simply a formality, and be talking in an arrogant matter is where I have the problem.

Hey maybe she is great and I would want to play for her. How the Hell do I know with no content? If she won't post her un copywrited material on the web, is she going to send me a non copywrited CD?

So basically it's all talk right now. I remember some one saying something about talk and it being cheap or something like that.

So Sherry welcome to cut throat, heartbreaking, dog eat dog, highly competive, stab some one in the back to move up world of Pro music.

So Sherry welcome to cut throat, heartbreaking, dog eat dog, highly competive, stab some one in the back to move up world of Pro music.

Wegster man.. where's the love....

So Sherry welcome to cut throat, heartbreaking, dog eat dog, highly competive, stab some one in the back to move up world of Pro music.

Wegster man.. where's the love....

I had it brutally beat out of me by this business years ago.

Now I am bitter and jaded.

I like it.. LOL (clapping like the brass monkey with 2 cymbals)

It's a "get down or lay down" world out there!

the only reason why i haven't posted any songs up you effin retarded "musician" so called fellow "respectable" ones at that is because they are not copyrighted yet i am very serious about my music and how dare you accuse me of otherwise if beyond me i don't have to validate myself but i wrote over 23 songs this year alone...ok thank very much sirs and misses

The copywrite office should have your paper work by now.

I am looking forward to hearing your tunes. I don't see any posted yet? I imagine you'll have a couple up any day now.

I'll keep waiting.

I suspect this is just a 'clash of wills' thing, but . . .
. . . here's some relevant information . . . .
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If you mail to the Library of Congress, you've got to consider yourself lucky if you actually get the copyright in your hands within 3 months.
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Mail no longer goes directly to the the Library of Congress, and it slows things down. Blame a**hole terrorists . . .
It goes to a separate building where it is checked for radioactivity, explosives, chemicals, biologically active organisms and the like. If it gets past the dogs and all the misc. sensors, then they sign for the registered packages, do a quick visual check, and send it on . . .
You should send ALL music by registered mail, even if they don't want to sign for it. (That's tough for them: protect yourself).
Your receipt for this would normally come back within 3 days, but I've had to wait up to 3 months for this '2-day' reciept.
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You probably already know this, but others may not . . . .
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Also lot of musicians don't want to go the "collections" route to save money.
At $45/pop it'd cost her $1035.
Collections allow you to register however many songs you send for the same $45.
I've been copyrighting my songs in batches of 10-11.
I spent $180 by doing batches, as opposed to $1935. No contest.
If I need to break a song out of a collection later, it's still cheaper . . .
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whatever . . .

I suspect this is just a 'clash of wills' thing, but . . .

No, not really. It's a matter of getting the facts straight and not making excuses.

Copywriting songs is merely a formality. A song is copy written the moment it is put in tangible format. The average person trying to prove/fight infringement probably doesn't have the financial backing to fight it because it is extremely difficult and time consuming to prove even with a copy write. Most people complain about spending $9.95 to send e-mail here on band mix. How many have at least well into 5 figures to fight and infringement case that they probably won't win? Let' say they do win what's the pay off? Unless it's some one with deep pockets it's pretty futile.

I posted this information and provided the excerpts from the book The Musicians Business and Legal Guide:

http://www.amazon.com/Musicians-Busines ... 0130316814

on another thread about musician legal issues. Any serious or to quote

"effin retarded "musician" so called fellow "respectable" ones at that is because they are not copyrighted yet i am very serious about my music"

should own a copy and be familiar with their legal rights and liabilities. I have also consulted my personal attorney on these matters.

This is what a "very serious" musician does.

I always heard the cheap thing to do was mail a copy of your music and lyrics back to yourself so you would have a postmark to prove the date.

As stated above somewhere, put all your songs on a tape or cd and call it "_________ works". You can copywrite 14-20 songs if you are creative.

I almost wish that someone would take one of my songs and put it on a commercial or use it for anything to get it in the public eye. Ive got one on a motorcycle racing video that I gave for free. Im not making any money with it anyway so that might get the attention of someone who might want to "buy" a song or two.

This might be a funny thread but it is productive if people think and discuss copywrite issues.

Wegman is right, most people wouldnt begin to have the money to fight one of these cases. Look at John Fogarty of Creedence, he got sued for basically plagerising himself. I think that fight went on for 15 years. It was so bad that he didnt even want to perform Creedence songs in concert anymore and hell he wrote them.

Hi folks,

Yes this gal's post wasn't real keen in the admin dept of music, but didn't deserve to be beat up on either. My suggestion would be to move out of Jersey and go to the south -lolbut seriously,the business part of the music is where most fail,so work on getting name recognition and do opening acts for big names and focus on getting apublisher and manager,etc. Seems to me you got your vocals and band stuff together if you have been at it this long.
Good luck to ya!!

GG

jw123, that 'mailing to yourself' rumour has been going around for a long time; it would never never hold up in a court of law.
- especially if someone stole your song, and then sent it to the Libray of Congress themselves . . . kiss your song goodbye . .
There is no better way to protect your works than by getting a copywrite filed at the Library of Congress.
Of course, Irminsul will be quick to mention ASCAP - and, rightly so.
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Anyway Wegman, good points. I'd been thinking of getting a few of those 'musician's guide' - type books.