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#13258 by Gregonzo
Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:08 pm
In July my fiance, roomate, and I went to see the legendary Daniel Johnston perform at The Exit/In in Nashville Tenn. So it's not like the stage was going to be blessed w/ technically skilled musicians anyway, however when these goony assed metal monsters known as the "Matoid" belted out a disgusting version of Eleanor Rigby, I felt compelled (in my drunken state) to shout and remind him of how horrible he sounded. Then his mother said from about 4 people to the left of me in the front of the audience crowd "Hey, They are the band that is going to play backup for Daniel Johnston. Who brings their mother to a show and hides them in the audience for crowd control? I mean COME ON what a Eff'n pansy

#13262 by Starfish Scott
Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:47 pm
OMG LOLOOLOLOLOL I am loling so hard I may pee.

If my mother ever showed up at a show, I would call security. LOL

"As in out ya go, ma"

#14320 by jw123
Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:44 pm
1977 or 1978 Aerosmith totally stunk. They played with Mothers Finest and Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush. It was terrible. They played everything too fast (wonder why).

Fast forward to the late 90s and Aerosmith sounded great in concert. Myabe it was the drugs but a lot of the older bands Ive seen lately have sounded really good.

I saw the Stones in the 70s and they were rough, 5 or 6 yrs ago they were great.

#14326 by Starfish Scott
Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:13 pm
The drugs are nice for coming up with the original ideas, but for live performance they are negative only.

In other words, for inspiration only.

i.e. Do not eat the brown acid before you perform. Eat it when writing or eat it at the show, while in the audience.

#14329 by jimmydanger
Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:24 pm
Hey gopher, I've seen Tull 21 times. Excellent every time.

#14373 by ThirdShiftPsycho
Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:21 pm
The worst I've ever seen would be a toss-up: Either Alice In Chains, who seemed totally unconcerned with playing, or Tool. Tool's sound was so bad that you couldn't even tell what song they were playing. As a side issue, the lighting never really changed through the entire show. It was just this headache-inducing green haze.

Another bad one was Crosby Stills and Nash. First they went on some political tirade. Then, when they got booed, they changed their position. FYI - When you're an aging hippie doing shows way past your prime, no one wants to hear your political views... They just want to hear the music they grew up with. If you insist on spouting off about politics, don't change your position to support what's popular at a given venue... It just shows how shallow you really are. The highlight came when they went off about corporate greed. This coming from the band that was charging 40 bucks for a T-Shirt.

#14379 by Irminsul
Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:51 pm
ThirdShiftPsycho wrote:<snip>.... FYI - When you're an aging hippie doing shows way past your prime, no one wants to hear your political views....<snip>


Not true at all. George Carlin (aging Hippie...on his fifth heart attack now) still does sellout concert halls wherever he goes and he does practically nothing but spout off about politics and modern culture.

Bob Dylan does the same, he doesn't get booed for his politics. He did get booed for putting some electronics in his music once but thats a different deal.

Maybe the point here is that "aging Hippies" seemed to have been vindicated, in view of current political realities.

#14390 by Starfish Scott
Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:22 am
BOTTOM LINE: Play your tune and get a positive response, then you can push your luck.

You wanna talk sh*t at the show? Do it after you played and if they were happy with the performance, otherwise you are lighting a fire that might be your own funeral pyre.

My buddy got beaned with a glass bottle for shooting his mouth off thinking he was the spokesman of the people. ( 5 stitches later) He was fine. The place reminded me of BOB'S COUNTRY BUNKER and no they didn't play RAWHIDE all night long, but maybe they should have. lol

#14398 by Irminsul
Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:33 am
Captain Scott wrote:<snip>

My buddy got beaned with a glass bottle for shooting his mouth off thinking he was the spokesman of the people. ( 5 stitches later) He was fine. The place reminded me of BOB'S COUNTRY BUNKER and no they didn't play RAWHIDE all night long, but maybe they should have. lol


Monkeys can be taught all sorts of things, like throwing bottles.

#14401 by ThirdShiftPsycho
Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:19 am
Irminsul wrote:
ThirdShiftPsycho wrote:<snip>.... FYI - When you're an aging hippie doing shows way past your prime, no one wants to hear your political views....<snip>


Not true at all. George Carlin (aging Hippie...on his fifth heart attack now) still does sellout concert halls wherever he goes and he does practically nothing but spout off about politics and modern culture.

Bob Dylan does the same, he doesn't get booed for his politics. He did get booed for putting some electronics in his music once but thats a different deal.

Maybe the point here is that "aging Hippies" seemed to have been vindicated, in view of current political realities.


Apparently, you have difficulty grasping the idea that there is some difference between a comedian who has made a career of political rantings and past their prime musicians who fail to practice what they preach, so allow me to assist you...

A comedian's entire performance is based on his words. If you don't pay attention to what he is saying, you don't get the joke. Music is a bit different. There are a great many people who have absolutely no idea what the lyrics of a given song mean. Many times, they just like the song. People go to see George Carlin to hear his take on current situations (right or wrong is a matter of opinion... I'm not here to talk politics). People go to these reunion shows to hear songs they grew up with and to relive a bit of their past. That's why people usually don't want to hear the new crap that gets thrown into gigs by yesterday's greats.

Bob Dylan is a bit of a special situation. The guy managed to convince a whole generation of junkies that he was deep as a way of pushing subpar music and a lack of singing ability.

Here endeth the lesson.

#14415 by Starfish Scott
Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:55 pm
LOL You can crack on Bob Dylan all you want. (not really my cup of tea as well)

The point is he could buy and sell 20+ of you. Cry all you like, once they make it, there is no argument.

#14417 by jimmydanger
Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:09 pm
Some artists are better writers than they are performers. Most people agree that Dylan's lyrics were superb and that he is a living legend. The Byrds and Hendrix viewed him as a god (the only top ten hit Hendrix had was "All Along The Watchtower").

#14420 by ThirdShiftPsycho
Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:45 pm
Captain Scott wrote:LOL You can crack on Bob Dylan all you want. (not really my cup of tea as well)

The point is he could buy and sell 20+ of you. Cry all you like, once they make it, there is no argument.


I'm not going to disagree with you. He wrote some decent songs, and he made a lot of money. This was also at a time when drug use was at it's peak and you could string any random words together and people thought you were deep. Somewhat like the aging hipsters I saw on 20/20 going on and on about the amazing depth of a display of abstract art... Until they were told that they were finger paintings done by kindergartners.

#14423 by Starfish Scott
Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:46 pm
LOL And the screaming hardcore is much more musical that that era was?

Go on, quit deluding yourself. If you aren't creative in an artistic sense, try hooking up with someone that is.

There is a market for that crap, but no self-respecting musician is going to shake your hand and tell you what a big fan he/she is. Even Peter Steele is partial to a melodic sound and if that "Herman Munster" is doing it, than you can too. (Pete I loved your music until I saw you live and you were so drunk, you couldn't speak the lyrics let alone sing them)

I'd rather play FOLK, than hardcore or any derivation thereof. And I detest folk, in my understanding of the words.

PS: All along the watchtower sucks. It was popular, but who cares.

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