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I hate the way that every producer you meet seems to have a new and better spin on YOUR work. (who the faq are they>?)

I.e. They want to rerecord everything, even the stuff you feel is fine.

Eat my shorts Mr. Producer, share my vision or I'll take my dumb ass down the road.

PS: That one is for you Mr. "UK Dance Machine". You can kiss my dirty, hairy, smelly, crud covered taint.

I told you it's "mind over matter", as in I don't mind and you don't matter. LOL

Praise team music and praise teams!
They were fun while they lasted, but
never going that route again.(Even tho
the woman are hotter and dressed finer)

Wise up industry is industry whether you
put music before it, or computer, or auto.
Industry is survival of the fittest few make
it on their own, most cling to the safety net
of there day job. If your invovled in industry
slay them, if your invovled in music, hire
someone to slay them.

I probably shouldn't post this but here I go. There's only a few things I like about the music business. 1) Rehearsing and producing for my own pleasure creative interpretations of covers and originals with good musicians I consider friends 2) Performing for a reasonable wage the fruits of my labor, hopefully to an appreciative audience. EVERYTHING ELSE IS B.S.

That's very reasonable actually Fisherman.
Doesn't a football player like to practice and play for pay? Why wouldn't any other entertainer want the same?

That's very reasonable actually Fisherman.
Doesn't a football player like to practice and play for pay? Why wouldn't any other entertainer want the same?

No comparison, really. One is competition and the other is entertainment. You can charge for entertainment but competitors only get paid when they win usually.

Athletes have to train for a dozen years and be at the top of their field to ever get money for it. Musicians only need people who are willing to pay for their music and even an amateur can do that if the right situation is available.

No comparison, really. One is competition and the other is entertainment. You can charge for entertainment but competitors only get paid when they win usually.

Athletes have to train for a dozen years and be at the top of their field to ever get money for it. Musicians only need people who are willing to pay for their music and even an amateur can do that if the right situation is available.

I don't mean to question you, but I feel like you don't know much about music if you don't think that it's both an entertainment and a competition, or that musicians shouldn't train for years to play their instruments to the best of what's humanly possible.

Also, you must not know much about amateur/minor leagues in sports either.

What about getting on a tour isn't a competition? Or getting into a venue that is usually booked (unless your like us and buddy up with bands and play whenever you can complete a full set)?

He has obviously not been following the Dallas Cowboys lately ...

I don't mean to question you, but I feel like you don't know much about music if you don't think that it's both an entertainment and a competition, or that musicians shouldn't train for years to play their instruments to the best of what's humanly possible.

Also, you must not know much about amateur/minor leagues in sports either.

What about getting on a tour isn't a competition? Or getting into a venue that is usually booked (unless your like us and buddy up with bands and play whenever you can complete a full set)?

I suppose that sports competition is a form of entertainment and, if you are playing a lot "battle of the bands" then music can also be competition sometimes.

Vike, just so you'll know, I've been a professional (mostly) full-time musician since 1975. Since 2006, I do between 150-200 concerts a year on 4 continents and currently on a 2 month tour of 5,000 miles covering almost every state in the western USA.

I understand competition well, bro, but the point is that I made money the first time I played live with a band in 1975 (at the age of 15) though I don't think we had even worked on the endings for the songs we played that day. On the other hand, I played football for many years and never saw a dime. I was a much better running back than guitarist until about 1981.

MOST guitar players here are better than me, and I would lose in a competition with them, but I understood a long time ago that being a recording artist means you make recordings people will buy. It has little to do with being a great musician or even having talent, though some is necessary of course. It's more a matter of where you spend your time and energy.

I have always strived to be a songwriter first and develop a singing style that is my own. That kept me out of being lead singer in generic bands that played what was on the radio but it paid off eventually.









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He has obviously not been following the Dallas Cowboys lately ...

Since I am from Dallas and watched them since I was 4 years old, I can say without hesitation that they are neither competitive nor entertainment this year.

I don't mean to question you, but I feel like you don't know much about music if you don't think that it's both an entertainment and a competition, or that musicians shouldn't train for years to play their instruments to the best of what's humanly possible.

Also, you must not know much about amateur/minor leagues in sports either.

What about getting on a tour isn't a competition? Or getting into a venue that is usually booked (unless your like us and buddy up with bands and play whenever you can complete a full set)?

Vike, I've been a professional (mostly) full-time musician since 1975. Since 2006, I do between 150-200 concerts a year on 4 continents and currently on a 2 month tour of 5,000 miles covering almost every state in the western USA.

I understand competition well, bro, but the point is that I made money the first time I played live with a band in 1975 (at the age of 15) though I don't think we had even worked on the endings for the songs we played that day.

On the other hand, I played football for many years and never saw a dime. I was a much better running back than guitarist until about 1981.

MOST guitar players here are better than me, but I understood a long time ago that a recording artist is someone who makes recordings people will buy. It has little to do with being a musician or even having talent, though some is necessary of course.

I have always strived to be a songwriter first and develop a singing style that is my own. That kept me out of being lead singer in generic bands that played what was on the radio but it paid off eventually.


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Speaking of WEST USA...

... BEER Alert! You said March, right?

Speaking of WEST USA...

... BEER Alert! You said March, right?

Can hardly wait to hear how far you've come since last June!

I'm in Odessa this weekend but going into New Mexico instead of south from here.

Maybe I can hook up with Vike in Albany for a few beers next month? I'll be in Springfield Oregon Feb 5th.

While your statement may be true Mr. Yod, I
totally disagree with it " a recording artist is
someone who makes recordings people will
buy" Artistry and money have rarely mixed,
look at Mozart, Van Gogh, etc...

Alot of the Branson acts tour Canada in Jan
and Feb, and a little of Mar, not me ever.

Praise team players can play 7 nights a
week, every week. Not me anymore I
grew bored with them. I felt like a
sellout in these groups, selling out my own
musical ideas, for some dumbass praise team
leaders vision(or lack of) of what a song should
sound like.

There is no one correct way to make it in music.
I'm a better player now then I've ever been, but
I rarely play out now. I don't need to make any
money from music, I just need about 3 hours a
day on guitar, and about 3 hours a day on piano,
about 1 hour a day studying theory, and lately
about 1 hour a day for the Bandmix forum, to
satisfy my musical needs. Hell you throw a 2 hour
workout in there and you barely have time to take
care of your other business.

Are people scared to reply to this on a recruitment site?
This question has only gotten a few honest responses.

They are quaking in their boots.

Most the "recruitment" personnel here are looking for a commission from you.


LOL Reminds me of the deer in the headlights theory..keep the light on them and they will not move an inch.

Well then do people just 100% enjoy the music industry?
Or just not care? It would seems odd to not care about something you are involved in.