#95048 by Kramerguy
Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:10 pm
Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:10 pm
Sans - emulated out is good for live, but SUCKS for recording, you will never get the 'full' sound using it... You gotta mic it up!
Bane - I get a good mix out of my 3000 direct, but the difference is that I tweaked the crap out of it (for the last 1.5 years) for what ends up as only a handful of good direct sounds for recording. When I plug it thru a PA, it's a totally different beast, as well as when I plug into my marshall.. so I have several different patches based on what I'm plugging into, and then even more patches for each different guitar I play (for drop tunings).. so it's a logistical nightmare for sure. I've got the patience to pull it off I reckon lol.
My suggestion to you, based on what I hear in the demos, is this:
-Use headphones for everything, recording, mixing, mastering. Even crappy ones will give you a much better disposition than using monitors (specifically because of the RP500)
- Choke back the effects like we all suggested in the other thread... I know the stereo chorus sounds wicked.. lol, but you gotta reign it in.. try these two things with it - keep the chorus level up at 99 but choke the depth back to about 20%. Then try it vice-versa. I can't remember, but one of those configs worked well for direct recording for me.. just can't remember how I ended up settling that.
- Also choke back the reverb, delay, etc.. boost the mids a little and the lows just a hair. You will hear it in the headphones. And the cool thing is.. what you hear in the headphones is what you get on the recording, generally. Play with the distortion and try to use the tone/gain controls to smooth it out.. use your EQ settings to offset any tonal changes - the hardest thing with going direct is cleaning up the "chunky-ness" of the distortion. This will be a lot of trial and error, but don't be afraid to tweak, and re-tweak. What sounds good at first, might not on playback-
Good luck
Bane - I get a good mix out of my 3000 direct, but the difference is that I tweaked the crap out of it (for the last 1.5 years) for what ends up as only a handful of good direct sounds for recording. When I plug it thru a PA, it's a totally different beast, as well as when I plug into my marshall.. so I have several different patches based on what I'm plugging into, and then even more patches for each different guitar I play (for drop tunings).. so it's a logistical nightmare for sure. I've got the patience to pull it off I reckon lol.
My suggestion to you, based on what I hear in the demos, is this:
-Use headphones for everything, recording, mixing, mastering. Even crappy ones will give you a much better disposition than using monitors (specifically because of the RP500)
- Choke back the effects like we all suggested in the other thread... I know the stereo chorus sounds wicked.. lol, but you gotta reign it in.. try these two things with it - keep the chorus level up at 99 but choke the depth back to about 20%. Then try it vice-versa. I can't remember, but one of those configs worked well for direct recording for me.. just can't remember how I ended up settling that.
- Also choke back the reverb, delay, etc.. boost the mids a little and the lows just a hair. You will hear it in the headphones. And the cool thing is.. what you hear in the headphones is what you get on the recording, generally. Play with the distortion and try to use the tone/gain controls to smooth it out.. use your EQ settings to offset any tonal changes - the hardest thing with going direct is cleaning up the "chunky-ness" of the distortion. This will be a lot of trial and error, but don't be afraid to tweak, and re-tweak. What sounds good at first, might not on playback-
Good luck
