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Ok I am having difficulty with my samples a little bit here.

I am talking to everyone I know and everyone I don't know trying to get into a more firm setup that I can either play bass or guitar or vocals that show slightly more than what I am seeing/hearing currently.

So I was writing this one guy last night, he was perplexing.

He writes that he's heard some of the music being played at this point.
Then he asks me why all of it isn't more like "Invisible Light".

I wrote him back that "it is what it is".
"Why is the sun not golden and why is the sky not azure blue"?

I said "let's just get together and we'll play for a spell". "Just be happy that it can be that way, it just hasn't been written yet and maybe we'll be able to conjure up some more of that flavor".

He writes me back, "write a whole album worth of that type of music and I am on board". "Call me when it's done". LOL

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It's getting to be so bad that I can't play that tune for anyone because that's the only thing they want to do.

I even took it off my Bmix account because although I think it's good, it causes more trouble than it solves...

When I have it on, all would be musicians want that flavor specifically.
When I have it off my url, I get wisecracks and remarks about "where do you keep the real music".

If I introduce it, the wisecracks stop but the point is that "IL" is not the only thing being done here. Yeah, I can cope with that flavor just about non-stop but I don't want to be chained to it. (well maybe I would) lol

So I have taken it off until further notice. It's causing trouble and attracting attention of the wrong variety.

Have you ever had a sample that you had to keep out back in the proverbial shed because it tries to color everything you do or causes you trouble enough that it's wiser just to bury it?

At this point, it may stay buried..the trouble that one causes has been paramount. Besides it also interfering with my proposed bass deals. I can't even show it to a possible bass setup or they ask me if I am not really looking to do something other than bass, which causes more headaches...

That flavor is My Friend 222, PerPetual Groove, Invisible Light and maybe the end part of Spin, it's all the same thing. Why the hoopla? Am I wrong for playing more than 1 genre at a time? I thought we all we're multigenre these days?

I could never settle for one sound/genre all the time. Mixing it up makes it fun. In a band situation, though, you need to be a little more focused.

Tell me about it, Mike !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People all want to do one thing or another, but never 1 thing at the same time.

Trying to get even 3 people all on the same wavelength is like trying to run a herd of cattle with 1 person and no horse.

I am still a bit pissed the jackhat wanted me to conjure up a whole album and then "give him a call". (I'll get right to it, master. WTF Explain to me again what part you are going to have in this if I am writing everything?)

YEAH RIIIGHT !!! "I'll call you when the burgers are done, douche". lol

I like a few genres, but I only do a few things well enough to "show the dog/wag his tail".

My one friend said it best. "It's not like he has a one track mind, it's like he's a broken radio that only gets 1 weird ass, psychedelic station".

I say, "I can only please one person a day and today is not your day". lol

PS: Even a busted radio gets a few genres on that one lone station that comes in so clearly, especially late at night when the reception is choice and all the regulars are very, very, very fast asleep.

I don't like the boundaries/labels of a "Genre". I think you should just write and play. What's good will schtick... that should be it's only label or genre!
People need little compartments to put you in so they know what to call you, what you're about etc...
You're trying to find others to work with so I would suggest to put your best work first.
You use to have a song on your player don't remember the name but it was very psychedelic/beatle-esque to me... loved it. That tune would make me want to contact you if I was looking and heard it...
Best tune first regardless of the BS you never know who is listening.

I don't like the boundaries/labels of a "Genre". I think you should just write and play. What's good will schtick... that should be it's only label or genre!
People need little compartments to put you in so they know what to call you, what you're about etc...
You're trying to find others to work with so I would suggest to put your best work first.
You use to have a song on your player don't remember the name but it was very psychedelic/beatle-esque to me... loved it. That tune would make me want to contact you if I was looking and heard it...
Best tune first regardless of the BS you never know who is listening.

LOL Next Victim.. that tune was "Invisible Light" (I think).. (So you are saying I should put that one back up??!!?!?!?!!!??!!) That MF song causes trouble.

When I use it as a bass sample, they get upset and think I am trying to take over the band or something similar.
When I use it as a guitar sample, people get really quiet, really quick. ( a tad unnerving)
When I use it a vocal sample, they either call it "pitchy" or they ask who really sang it and I just shrug. WTF do you say to that sh*t>? I dunno.

And you shouldn't say that it was "Beatlesque" because people will start going bonkers yet again. (You Crack Me Up, Jahva)(You're doing it too now, more life for that tune that I considered dead and dying.)

THAT'S THE TUNE THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO LIKE, well except maybe Les. He didn't like that one, it had too much vibrato and rotary speaker effect type stuff in it. That FING SOB changed the guitar tone on that one as well, except I didn't find out about it until I compared the couple few versions. He just decided to change it and thought I wouldn't know the difference but I keep all copies and compare/contrast. (Positions sword to strike dead center when I fall on it)

lol WHY IS IT SO HARD TO WORK WITH PEOPLE? ALL ONE EVER HOPES FOR IS A SMALL THING OF LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS. Instead it's like wrestling a really hungry alligator. The better the stuff written is, the worse the gator bites and tries to devour you.

And we won't even talk about how angry it seems to make others when you pump a tune out like that quickly. I just don't get it, obviously. I just figured what's good for one person would be good for all in the setup. I am not a people person and I don't even care who's feelings are hurt tonight. I don't understand anyone. lol (I'm not a psychiatrist but I play one on TV.)

I detest people, they are all nutty. It only gets worse when you have to attempt to work with them.

The only thing I ever bargained for was to make good music and when I do, people seem surprised. Why is this>? Was I expected to fail>? Why are people angry when you write something good and happy when you do poorly? Wtf is that sh*t all about?

This reminds me of Lester's last communicae. He freaking had the nerve to tell me that I inflated the situation between Sad Robot Records and us.
(As in he didn't believe it existed!!!!)(f**k OFF LES, I don't believe YOU exist, either.)

I told him the truth, he douched an offer to record an EP "Blue Skies Over Your Dome" under their tutelage, for free. (Or that's what I got out of it)(We never got to the contract stage, I never even saw the pen.)

Whatever helps you sleep, I told him. That and it would be a long case of never before I work with him again. GO CHANGE THE GUITAR TONE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK, you cretin.

I'll put that rag of a tune back up on my player, Jahva. If that isn't the one, please let me know so I can change it to whatever one you figure would give me the most mileage/bang for my buck.

I still grind my teeth nightly thinking about that f**k EP I could have finished 3x over now.

Let me know if that's not the one, Jahva.. I'm getting to hate that damn tune, I hope it's one of the others at this point.

Invisble Light is a good tune Scott, very well written. I can see why it gets attention... it's good. I'd leave it up.
There is a lot of so so music out in this bigazz world so when you write something that makes people pause and say who is that? Get what miles you can out of it. But I do understand feeling tired of it. You wrote it. But hell the Eagles still play take it easy 40 years later. People still want to hear it.

But the one I'm speaking of was from some years ago. Guitar driven... more like PerPetual Groove. I believe you used to rotor speaker sound on it as well. I think the vocals had a lot of effect on them but it was perfect for the sound.
I do remember going back to your page one day to hear it again and it was gone.

lol doh..

Hmmm.. I wonder which one you were thinking of...

rotary speaker, hmm? lemme look...brb.

You got me semi-stunted now.. lol



Ok the short list..

I just had "My Friend 222", "Irrational Remix", "Spin" and "Perpetual Groove", so i am guessing it's not them.

That leaves:

"Invisible Light" - you said not it. ( the one with the birds at the beginning)

"Mint" - the one with the train effects and the Zappa type vocal at the beginning? "just remember ... just remember where we've been"

"Every Last Stand/Seven" - "everyone dies protecting their greed and lies"?

"Ain't No telling" - "ain't no, ain't no, ain't no telling when I will see you again, but I sure do hope it will be tomorrow.."

"Come and Gone" - the butchered one? I sincerely doubt this is the one you mean. This is the tune with the Bob's Country Bunkhouse piece at the end and the broken glass.

"Irrational" - the regular version.. "I don't understand the feelings that you throw away".. "fooling yourself, spending your wealth"...

"My Friend 223" - The clean guitar, but dirty vocal version>? "Sometimes it's not so easy, specially when you're only friend talks and sees and looks like you.. You do the same as him".

I don't think I actually played any of the rest of them for you guys here at bmix yet, so it can't be any of the newer ones.

If it's something I had up recently, it would be "Come and Gone".

If THAT is the tune you like, I am shocked.
That tune was so severely ass fuct, I was contemplating suicide right after committing homicide. lol

Color me cornfused..

Help me out here, Jahva..what am I missing?

Do you know which it is? I'm almost positive I didn't actually upload any other music thus far..

Ecch, I am sitting here with a friend of mine cackling like witches and we think it might be "Every Last Stand" or "Seven"? lol (I'm PUI, btw...Na Zdorovie/На здоровье)

I'll stick it up, let me know if this is the one you were thinking of, we're both at a loss and he's more familiar with my music than I am at this point, although the booze isn't helping and he insists that none of it sounds like Beatles to him..

PS: "Every Last Stand" is my "Seven" which is my ode to "Silent Running" and Bruce Dern..great movie. And for the record, I co-wrote these materials with Lester. He was a real pain in my ass, god rest his soul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p69lEMn0I8k

Not too long ago I was in a situation where I was asked to join a band that has been established for close to 3 yrs. I went in with an open mind and explained that "I" am joining them and I will do what is required of me. However I did mention that if we gel and its a good fit and I was asked to join them full-time then I would like to have equal say and influence, they agreed.
I play bass and like to "Funk" up what I play. Not long into it the guitarist and singer approached me and said, "we need you to just stay steady and keep it solid. The guitarist then told me that I would have times when I could throw in my "Black" stuff. I got ticked off that they were trying telling me how to play. They knew my style and how I played. their last bass player just sat on one note and cruised it.
Needless to say that situation didnt last long...Singer quit. LOL

None of the above... You're going to have to dig into your archives it seems. This was back around 2010 I believe. Maybe from a past band but it was your sound for sure. More guitar driven. I would say more Lennon/Harrison style than Beatles if that helps. Progression reminded of something either might do. It was cool sound.

It sounds like you are talking about the sample, My Friend 222 or My Friend 223.

Did you hear both of those?

The 222 is the heaviest guitar, with a crap load of effect on the sample vocal.
The 223 was the complete with DE-boned guitar that gets lost in the background and heavy vocal effect signal.

Damn you are messing with my mind.. lol

I sectioned out all the stuff done after my recent debacle, so i know it's none of that material.

None of the Motorwolf stuff is online, but that stuff sounds different.
I doubt that is what you are referring to. I don't post that stuff either.

Ok, I'll slap up the 222 and 223.
If those aren't it, let me know, we'll move onto the next one(s).

You know, I think I will be surprised when and if I figure out which tune you are referring to. Around here "Invisible Light" is what trips the triggers and they look blankly at the rest of them.

For the life of me I can't imagine what tune you are referring to.
I dare say, are you sure it's my tune you thinking of? lol (yikes)

That's the one! I always thought it was an unfinished demo to a really good song.
The 222 version. 223 is cool as hell to. My favorite of your tunes. It has an unintentional pop to it.
Well done.

lol Oh Jahva..you are a good egg. I gotta say.

It's a 50-50 split about those who like 222 and those who do not.

As soon as I heard the original tone on 222, I was severely hooked.
But that's part of the couple tune scenario with N. Cirasa.

I was building that tune from the ground up and as soon as we hit the point that's it's currently in, he imploded.

You know that's a cover, right? lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is-0NZQhHog

Remember JCP? He hated that one hard. He told me that I butchered it.
I felt like I gave it a second chance at life. So far, unless I tell people that it's a cover, no one seems to know.

As the story goes, I got some tab for this tune and it was horrible.
So I basically revamped it and it turned into something else.

The 222 version I like. The 223 version is DE-balled. I wanted the same tone on 223 as 222, but again Les decided since he was recording it, he should be free to change the tone on it.

I can play clean, I just don't wanna. LOL

You are real card, Jahva. YOu should get out there and play, man.
I've met a lot of cats that should stay in the house and off the stage, but you aren't one of them.

You are wasting what you got by playing it for no one.
Take a chance, what have you got to lose?

These days if your music is good, you can be a Martian and be ok.
And you seem pretty musically sound to me, especially some of your stuff I've heard recently.

If I was closer, I'd come over and MAKE YOU PLAY OUT.

You remind me of my one friend, he was unwilling to play live.
So I took him to a little club in Philly and threw some whiskey down his hatch, the next thing you know he was playing alright.

Now the f**k leads the open mic down there and he's got another band that's playing elsewhere on his off nights.

But that's a win for me, because if i didn't force him, he wouldn't be doing what he's doing now. I just wish I had caught him when his thing was forming so I could get in on the ground floor.

Still i am happy that at least he's doing well. LOL

I don't think I heard the original before your version and if I did I didn't put 2 and2 together. Probably blasphemy to the Hendrix hoards but I like the direction you took it.

Yeah the 222 guitar with the vocals from223 would be pretty damn good.

Funny after all these years I finally got some local interest from another guitar/ songwriter... at least to collaborate with. We'll see what comes from it.

Jahva, as god as my witness, I have seen a lot of people play over time around here and 75% of them are mush.

You got more going on with what you are writing than most.

I expect that you'd play that stuff with the same attention to detail that you write that stuff, thus you should prepare to play it on stage.

Just do it.

So much "suck" out there..it bothers me to hear good music and think that you never expose anyone else to it.

And I am not really in tune with your exact genre, your stuff just sounds good to me and that's what I hear, the intangible qualities of it.

I can listen to any music, but it has to be just so and performed well.
I am not easy to please. (Excluding rap/dance, I just never liked it at all.)

I.E. You're doing it well enough to convert most any critic and if you can survive these boards like you have, I think you owe it to yourself to "show the dog".


"Don't make me come down there".. lol "You'd feel less pain, but I can't guarantee that you'd be as sober as you liked when you got up to play".

"Bartender, gimme 3 more doubles of that and 3 shots of whatever that is". lol Oh and whatever he's drinking...(what is that, Gin?) ewwww.